Did Christ come to go to the Cross?

[BornAgain490]

5 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

And that's what happens with children - they are made in the image of their parents. 

Are you saying we are not created in the image of God? 

[Vine Abider]

18 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Are you saying we are not created in the image of God? 

Of course not - He birthed us in Christ!

[Your closest friendnt]

3 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Of course not - He birthed us in Christ!

God created man in his image in Genesis 2: let's make man in our image. 

What do you mean with that statement? Please explain. 

[Your closest friendnt]

5 hours ago, Cntrysner said:

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: 

What is the image of God the Father?

This a very interesting question. 

In that statement God distinguish himself and man from the rest of the creation.

And also distinguishes man from the rest of the creation. 

And he distinguish himself from man by existing before the creation as himself is the Creator. 

If we can see God and we draw his image with a pencil and draw the image of man and put them side by side they will project the same image or in this case the same likeness. Because God also said let us make man in our image and in our likeness. 

This is to distinguish how man was created from God in his image and in his likeness. Countering others stories of creation that Some God in the form of a bird leyed some eggs and so on and on. 

Edited January 8 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

7 hours ago, Cntrysner said:

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: 

What is the image of God the Father?

Your question is two fold in asking what is the image of God the Father. 

We have a lot more knowledge to relate to this question that the people before through out deferent periods of time. Because the Heavenly Father was revealed later. 

We can tell that the let's make man in our image is spoken about God the Father. 

That the Creator who was towards the Father was acting in agreement with the Father as God the Father had asked him to create the world and man. 

So the distinction is made between God and Man. God existed before the phycical world and man after. 

Man made his abode seperated from God in the Garden of Eden on earth. 

And God came to visit him. He can visit man to where he was but man was restraint in the Garden and cannot visit God in his abode. 

God breathed the  breath of life on the face of man or his nostrils and man became a Living Soul living in the body created from the earth. A living being or a soul in the physical body. A living soul toward God. He was in the life of God. God was the one who gave him life from his life. 

In Jesus Christ we are made Alive to God because we partake from Jesus Life giving Spirit.  

Adam got his Life from God but Eve got God's life from Adam. Just staying in the factual  context. 

Edited January 8 by Your closest friendnt

[Michael37]

Some of the discussion has become sidetracked. If the subject of Creation versus Evolution is about to develop as result of comments here please start a new thread in the appropriate section.

[TheBlade]

To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth My voice.

[Vine Abider]

On 1/9/2025 at 1:35 PM, TheBlade said:

To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth My voice.

For sure - I'm continually amazed at how many things were accomplished at the cross!  "For the joy set before Him He endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." (Heb 12:2)  All the old was wrapped up and done away with, and a brand new creation was brought in --> the unpacking of all that includes is immense!

Therefore the question is, what is that joy He was seeking to accomplish?

[Locust]

not to throw a wooden shoe into the works (gears) what if it was not a cross that Jesus died on ? I have done a good deal of research into how Jesus was hung up . hang a person on a cross and it can take days for them to die . the cross bar is used to prolong the suffering. Jesus and the other two died in 6 hours . as they were  supposed to do according to the law.

[Your closest friendnt]

On 1/11/2025 at 3:10 PM, Vine Abider said:

For sure - I'm continually amazed at how many things were accomplished at the cross!  "For the joy set before Him He endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." (Heb 12:2)  All the old was wrapped up and done away with, and a brand new creation was brought in --> the unpacking of all that includes is immense!

Therefore the question is, what is that joy He was seeking to accomplish?

Jesus knew very well what he was accomplishing and this the only way that it can happen and the prophetic to be fulfilled. He was looking forwards to what will be the result. And he did not take things personally against the people to bring bitterness to his heart. Knowing what it will be accomplish before hand went through his trials with hidden joy in his heart. This why we say that He loved the people and he dance the dance he was supposed to dance.