should the us take over canada?

[Ghostdog]

according to stats canada, canada exported 594.5b and imported 373.7b in 2023 across all sections

as for the border canada is putting more people and equimtment there.

the problem we have is the illegal guns that come through

[The_Patriot21]

13 hours ago, Alive said:

Just my opinion, but I think Trump and his counselors understand that Western Europe is in decline and that given the China problem, a Strong Pan-America is a good idea.

Think about Great Britain. Not long ago, the empire spanned the globe. Now a serious invasion of GB has tsken place as a result of their own choices. Same with the rest of Western Europe. Its not difficult to see the future.

I agree, but I don't think he was meaning take over Canada here, I think he was just starting off to Canadas PM.

I think he's probably a little more serious about the panama canal and Greenland. I don't agree with him forcing the issue with military force but I can see where they would be beneficial.

 

[Vine Abider]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:30 PM, The_Patriot21 said:

Hmmm this is worded like a quora troll question. Is that what worthy is now?

Seriously. We're not Nazi Germany. We should not be taking over other countries. 

Silly question.

But what if they voted us in?  (not really a serious question)

We have Canuckian friends who think it's kind of a quasi-state now and know that they enjoy many benefits from being protected by the US, etc.  They really wouldn't object all that much.

[nebula]

18 hours ago, just_abc said:

The american President Elect has been repeatedly talking about Greenland.. the Panama Canal.. (and to a certain extent Canada too?)..  as if he possibly wants the Usa to control or take over etc them etc....

In the case of Greenland and the Panama Canal..  even by military force possibly..

https://apnews.com/article/canada-trump-us-state-131dcff58a8f56116765f160d9f35460

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/greenland-donald-trump-jr-visit-denmark/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9gvg3452o

IIRC, when asked about Greenland by itself, Pres. Trump had said he would not use military force, but tariffs. 

Regarding Panama, and this is just my opinion, but he's not going to answer what he will or will not do for strategic reasons. Think about how he operated during his previous term. Was he a president who started wars or ended wars? Look at what he did with North Korea, for goodness sakes! (Going into the presidency, NK was ready to attack us. Next thing you know, Trump and Kim Jong Yun are shaking hands and crossing the N/S Korea border together.)

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Trump is a huge fan of negotiations, trolling, proverbial chess moves, and the like, but not going into war.

[nebula]

29 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

But what if they voted us in?  (not really a serious question)

We have Canuckian friends who think it's kind of a quasi-state now and know that they enjoy many benefits from being protected by the US, etc.  They really wouldn't object all that much.

That would be hysterical, wouldn't it?

[The_Patriot21]

48 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

But what if they voted us in?  (not really a serious question)

We have Canuckian friends who think it's kind of a quasi-state now and know that they enjoy many benefits from being protected by the US, etc.  They really wouldn't object all that much.

If it was them wanting in, freely without pressure, I wouldn't be opposed to it in principle. The only thing to consider, however, and for me this isn't a deal breaker, but something trump isn't considering, is it would definitely change the voter dynamic. I've talked to a lot of Canadians, and their voter dynamics are similar to the USs, in that your larger population areas tend to be very liberal while your rural areas tend to be far more conservative.

And a lot of Canadians don't like trump. So adding in multiple new states (which is likely what would happen, each Canadian province becoming a separate state) would likely change our voting dynamic, and I would suspect in the favor of the Democrats. 

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part, unless it happens it's hard to tell how it would change the dynamic were to happen, but I don't see it working in the Republicans favor.

[chirpy]

The globalist have been talking about forming a North American union to include a common currency for many years, to consist of,

Mexico/Canada/USA.  

This is just one of many articles on the concept..... maybe Trump wants to make it a reality?

https://www.cfr.org/report/building-north-american-community

 

[Michael37]

17 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

If it was them wanting in, freely without pressure, I wouldn't be opposed to it in principle. The only thing to consider, however, and for me this isn't a deal breaker, but something trump isn't considering, is it would definitely change the voter dynamic. I've talked to a lot of Canadians, and their voter dynamics are similar to the USs, in that your larger population areas tend to be very liberal while your rural areas tend to be far more conservative.

And a lot of Canadians don't like trump. So adding in multiple new states (which is likely what would happen, each Canadian province becoming a separate state) would likely change our voting dynamic, and I would suspect in the favor of the Democrats. 

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part, unless it happens it's hard to tell how it would change the dynamic were to happen, but I don't see it working in the Republicans favor.

Next minute a question about who owns the moon.

[The_Patriot21]

39 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Next minute a question about who owns the moon.

Elvis Presley, doh. Elvis got tired of the limelight, bought the moon, them faked his death and moved there to get away from it all. It's why we never went back, his secret couldn't get out.

I mean, everyone knows that silly.

[ayin jade]

3 hours ago, chirpy said:

The globalist have been talking about forming a North American union to include a common currency for many years, to consist of,

Mexico/Canada/USA.  

This is just one of many articles on the concept..... maybe Trump wants to make it a reality?

https://www.cfr.org/report/building-north-american-community

 

I dont want mexico to be united with us. That country is in chaos without solid leadership. The cartels control so much of the country, from goods like oil and avocados, with local mayors and law enforcement either in their pocket or marked for assasination, that it is pointless to join with that country.

I prefer the us to remain as it is. Taking on other countries would ultimately bankrupt us.