Praying in tongues and its benefits.

[Ray12614]

7 hours ago, farouk said:

Hi @Cyoder The gift of tongues - languages - was relative to the Apostolic period when there was as yet no complete canon of Scripture.

This is an nice denominational doctrine, yet, there is no scripture saying that Apostles have passed away, or Tongues, or other gifts.

Please show me the scriptures confirming what you stated above.

Thanks

[BibleStudent100]

On 1/25/2025 at 5:11 AM, other one said:

I attend a Nazarene Church, and we fund missionaries all over the world.   We have reports where people converse with groups of people, not knowing their language.

That is an amazing report.  I would love to see a video of this.  Keep praising the Lord!

[DeighAnn]

GODS words themselves solve the problem when it comes to what some call "angel" language.

First question should be is "is there anyone who does NOT understand" when "angel" language takes place?  Are there any other manifestations that come along side it? 

If so, then why aren't all the people who make claim of it never speak to the rest of the events? 

 

1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.



Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;


 

So, WHEN we SEE and HEAR all this going on, (during the TRIB) we will all know, just like they did.  

Matt 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Edited January 31 by DeighAnn

[farouk]

2 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

This is an nice denominational doctrine, yet, there is no scripture saying that Apostles have passed away, or Tongues, or other gifts.

Please show me the scriptures confirming what you stated above.

Thanks

"What that which is perfect is come" (1 Cor. 13); the revelation is complete.

Also, the matter of what revelation is: my claims and impressions of Divine leading do not supersede Scripture.

[Ray12614]

1 hour ago, farouk said:

"What that which is perfect is come" (1 Cor. 13); the revelation is complete.

Also, the matter of what revelation is: my claims and impressions of Divine leading do not supersede Scripture.

Okay, so you are referring to the following then:

[1Co 13:8-10 KJV] [8] Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

The key to this is defining 'THAT' which is perfect is come. You (and John MacArthur) believe that the perfect is the revelation of Jesus. And you certainly can do that if you want to since the revelation of Jesus is Perfect and Complete. However in context later on in the chapters 13 & 14 you will find that the perfect is when we see Jesus 'face to face'.

I won't be contentious about this, but, why would I think that tongues and prophecy has passed away but somehow knowledge has not? Hummmm . . . . it just doesn't make biblical sense.

If there ever was an time we need exhortation, comforting, and being built up in the Spirit it is now. So, I refuse to believe the gifts have passed away when scripture does not say that, and simply accept them as they are: imperfect gifts during the imperfect times in which we live. Much more can be said about the imperfection of the gifts and governance of them, but, if you cannot get past the notion they have passed away it won't mean anything to you.

Hope this somehow helps . . . . Ray . . . 

 

[TheBlade]

I stopped counting at 28 translations that use the word "when" the perfect comes. In fact not one didn't have the word "when" when, whenever; at once; as soon as". 

 

[Cyoder]

Where in the Bible does it ever mention "Angel language"?

[Gracejj]

On 2/9/2025 at 5:12 AM, Cyoder said:

Where in the Bible does it ever mention "Angel language"?

 I think they were referencing this when they mentioned Angel language,  -Corinthians 13:1,  "If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.".