Friday noonish crucifixion to Sunday morning resurrection – 3 days?

[Anne2]

2 minutes ago, Luther said:

2 Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing** the word of truth.

( dividing, Strong's # 3718):

Transliteration: orthotomeō.    Definition: From a compound of G3717 and the base of G5114; to make a straight cut that is (figuratively) to dissect (expound) correctly (the divine message): - rightly divide.

KJV Usage: rightly divide (1x).

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1 Corinthians 2:7

[7]But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Proverbs 3:13-14

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

[14]For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

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I'm surprised you would say that. It's our privilege as children of God to search out a matter. Nothing is trivial when it comes to His Word. 

 

The spiritual benefit is in those that it benefits. Whether smoothing divisiveness over a matter, to eliminating doubt. We are all different in these things. For me personally, if something can smooth divisiveness that is spiritually healthy is it not?

[Luther]

1 minute ago, Anne2 said:

The spiritual benefit is in those that it benefits. Whether smoothing divisiveness over a matter, to eliminating doubt. We are all different in these things. For me personally, if something can smooth divisiveness that is spiritually healthy is it not?

I agree. Obviously God has us looking at everything from different angles.  I believe that God encourages us to search out a matter together. 

Unfortunately you cannot go to a typical " Bible study" in a church with some of the things we are freely talking about. I believe most pastors and teachers are compromised by the spell like influence of those they think have the preeminence over them because of their " biblical roots". I'll leave it at that. 

 

[BlindSeeker]

1 hour ago, Deborah_ said:

We know that the day after the crucifixion was a Sabbath. If that day was a Thursday, and there was another Sabbath on the Saturday, why didn't the women go to the tomb on the Friday? (Luke 23:56)

From my Trips to the Tomb thread . . .

"Let’s assume that Passover occurred on the fourth day of the week, which, regardless of such an assumption, would have been the fourteenth day of the first month. However, for the Jews the fourth day of the week would be our Tuesday night through Wednesday even, remember “from even unto even.” The next day from Wednesday night through Thursday even is the Fifteenth day, which would be day one the Feast of the Unleaven Bread and declared by God to be a holy convocation and a High Sabbath. Therefore, after the fifteenth day “was past” comes the sixteenth day, Thursday night through Friday even, during which the women went out and “bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Him” (Mark 16:1) and then, “prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the [fourth] commandment,” (Luke 23:56). The Sabbath day was from Friday night through Saturday even."

[BlindSeeker]

59 minutes ago, Luther said:

I believe most pastors and teachers are compromised by the spell like influence of those they think have the preeminence over them because of their " biblical roots".

I often refer to that as theological strongholds. People having been convince they were taught the truth, naturally believe they know the truth , and are impaired when the time comes to prove themself to be a noble Berean.

Strongholds are not wickedness or lasciviousness, that is simply sin. Strongholds are "imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against [or, to the level of] the knowledge of God."

[Anne2]

28 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

From my Trips to the Tomb thread . . .

"Let’s assume that Passover occurred on the fourth day of the week, which, regardless of such an assumption, would have been the fourteenth day of the first month. However, for the Jews the fourth day of the week would be our Tuesday night through Wednesday even, remember “from even unto even.” The next day from Wednesday night through Thursday even is the Fifteenth day, which would be day one the Feast of the Unleaven Bread and declared by God to be a holy convocation and a High Sabbath. Therefore, after the fifteenth day “was past” comes the sixteenth day, Thursday night through Friday even, during which the women went out and “bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Him” (Mark 16:1) and then, “prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the [fourth] commandment,” (Luke 23:56). The Sabbath day was from Friday night through Saturday even."

Hello blindseeker.

The problem for this  is Days of the month begin at night. The days of unleavened bread begin in the evening of the 14th day of the month.

Two issues are going on here.

 The first issue

The days of unleavened bread begin at the end of the fourteenth day of the month, and ends after the morning of the 15th day of the month.

The second issue

Two sacrifices each day, The first in the morning, the second in the evening, day to day continually...

Unleavened bread also has offerings that must be brought each day, in the morning. These are "besides" the continual  (day to day) offerings in the morning.

So, counting evening by evening each sacrifice for each day, would be accounted to the day before.

The days of unleavened bread contain parts of 2 days of the month. 

Edited February 1 by Anne2

[BlindSeeker]

3 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

The first issue

The days of unleavened bread begin at the end of the fourteenth day of the month, and ends after the morning of the 15th day of the month.

Passover begins after sundown of the 13th day of the month, as all days are Even to even, or sunset to sunset. Then after sunset the 14th day (Passover) begins. The feast of Unleaven Bread begins with a high day and ends with a high day.

The Jews combined it all together as an 8 dayfeast, but it still works as scripture states.

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S Passover.

Passover occurs on a workday, not a High Day sabbath. Jesus was the Passover lamb the next day was a high day.

Lev 23: 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
 7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

John 19:31 - The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

[Anne2]

2 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

Passover begins after sundown of the 13th day of the month, as all days are Even to even, or sunset to sunset.

The days of the month begin at night, because the month begins with the appearance of the new moon. This is the civil calender days for the months.

The feast of unleavened bread begins in the evening of the 14th day of the month. It is the latter part of the 14th day of the month. Granted the feast is also commonly called Passover as well. All the days of unleavened bread contain parts of two days of the month.

Days as from morning till evening

Numb 28:1  And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2  Command the children of Israel, and say unto them, My offering, and my bread for my sacrifices made by fire, for a sweet savour unto me, shall ye observe to offer unto me in their due season. {a sweet … : Heb. a savour of my rest }
3  And thou shalt say unto them, This is the offering made by fire which ye shall offer unto the LORD; two lambs of the first year without spot day by day, for a continual burnt offering. {day by day: Heb. in a day }

 4  The one lamb shalt thou offer in the morning, and the other lamb shalt thou offer at even;

 

Num 28:16 ¶  And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD.

Festival offerings each day
17  And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18  In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:
19  But ye shall offer a sacrifice made by fire for a burnt offering unto the LORD; two young bullocks, and one ram, and seven lambs of the first year: they shall be unto you without blemish:
20  And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil: three tenth deals shall ye offer for a bullock, and two tenth deals for a ram;

23  Ye shall offer these beside the burnt offering in the morning, which is for a continual burnt offering.
24  After this manner ye shall offer daily, throughout the seven days, the meat of the sacrifice made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD: it shall be offered beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.

In Leviticus  It first lists all the feasts and what was to be offered concluding with this...everything on his day...

23:37  These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
 

Judaism clearly acknowledges, night before day EXCEPT when it comes to sacrifices, which is day before night..

There are ways of counting that we do not take enough care to see. With the temple gone it is difficult to see it.

[Luther]

1 hour ago, BlindSeeker said:

I often refer to that as theological strongholds. People having been convince they were taught the truth, naturally believe they know the truth , and are impaired when the time comes to prove themself to be a noble Berean.

Strongholds are not wickedness or lasciviousness, that is simply sin. Strongholds are "imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against [or, to the level of] the knowledge of God."

Specifically I was referring to the overwhelming influence these pastors have these days regarding others with political ambitions that shape their narrative in the pulpit. 

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

Passover begins after sundown of the 13th day of the month, as all days are Even to even, or sunset to sunset. Then after sunset the 14th day (Passover) begins. The feast of Unleaven Bread begins with a high day and ends with a high day.

The Jews combined it all together as an 8 dayfeast, but it still works as scripture states.

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S Passover.

Passover occurs on a workday, not a High Day sabbath. Jesus was the Passover lamb the next day was a high day.

Lev 23: 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
 7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

John 19:31 - The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Luke 23:53-54

53 So Joseph took the body down from the cross and wrapped it in cloth. Then he put Jesus’ body in a tomb that was cut in a wall of rock. This tomb had never been used before. 54 This was late on Preparation Day. When the sun went down, the Sabbath day would begin.

.........Passover is always the preparation day for the first day of the feast of the Unleavened Bread. And it cannot be otherwise because the Unleavened Bread feast is always the 15th day (of the first month, the month of Nissan, which also comes with another name) and the 16th of Nissan is the second day of the offering of the first fruits. 

Jesus according to the scripture died some time before the end of the Passover day. Jesus died on the Passover day the 14th according to John 19:31 posted above in the quoted post by @BlindSeeker and reposted below. 

,,,,,,,,because it was the preparation,

the 14th the Passover 

that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day,

,,,,,,the 15th the Sabath Day and that makes the 14th to be a Friday ,,,,,

(for that sabbath day was an high day,),,,,,,,

The 15th which was a Sabath Day was also the first day of the feast of the Unleavened Bread which is always a High Day. 

And the 16th the second day of the feast of Unleaven Bread is the offering of the first fruits.

The first day of the week. It's the Sunday. 

.....The women reach the Tomb about 10 hours into the first day after the Sabath Day. Early in the morning with the first light of the day.

John 19:31 - The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

@Deborah_

Edited February 2 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

@Anne2 this is the schedule of the dayly morning and evening sarifice. I hope to find that helpful in what you are looking for. 

Every morning at 9:am and every evening at 3:pm. 

Jesus died at the same time as the evening sacrifice at 3:pm or the 9th hour Jewish time of the day which began at 6:am. 

THE TAMID DAILY SACRIFICE
Also known as the Perpetual Sacrifice

• Historical and Miscellaneous Charts
• Miscellaneous Old Testament Charts

JEWISH TIME	ROMAN TIME
SCHEDULE OF THE TAMID SACRIFICE
FIRST HOUR	DAWN
The first lamb is brought out and tied to the altar at dawn Mishnah: Tamid 3:2-3:3	The priests prepare the altar [Exodus 29:38-42; Leviticus 6:1-6; Mishnah: Tamid 1:2]
THIRD HOUR	9AM
The first lamb is sacrificed at 9AM Mishnah: Tamid 3:7; Edersheim, The Temple, chapter 7, p. 108	9AM is the first hour of prayer  [Acts 2:15] Temple gates open "Shacharit"(morning)
SIXTH HOUR	NOON
The second lamb is brought out and tied to the altar at noon Mishnah: Tamid 4:1	Noon is the second hour of prayer [Acts 3:1; 10:9] "Minchah" (gift-offering)
NINTH HOUR	3PM
The second lamb is sacrificed at 3PM Antiquities of the Jews 14.4.3 (14:65);  Philo Special Laws I, XXXV (169)	3PM is the third hour of prayer; also called the hour of confession [Acts 3:1; 10:9] "Ma'ariv" (evening: our afternoon is the Jewish evening= next day began at sundown) [3 hours of prayer see Mishnah Berakhot]

The Jewish day began at sundown.  The daytime was divided into 12 seasonal hours, but the day division of hours was focused on the schedule of the Tamid sacrifice.  In the first century AD the night was divided into 4 night watches of 3 hours each: (1) from sundown to 9PM; (2) from 9PM to 12 midnight; (3) from 12 midnight to 3AM; and (4) from 3AM to dawn.  A trumpet call, known as the "cockcrow" signaled the end of the 3^rd and beginning of the 4^th watch.

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