Was Joseph greedy?

[Your closest friendnt]

5 hours ago, Who me said:

Joseph ruler all of Potiphers house, nothing was kept from him 3xcept Potiphers wife. In the same way he rulered over Egypt, he acted as a wise Father to Pharaoh,  but that does not mean that he usurped his place.

When Pharaoh  gave orders Joseph obeyed. He took his father to Pharaoh  to get permission  for his family  to stay.

Pharaoh may have rubber stamped  Joseph's  decisions but that only shows that Joseph took care to maintain his place in the order of that society.

 

Yes morality existed but nothing like the morality we learnt from Jesus.

Joseph used the resources he had wisely and to the advantage of his master. He did not abuse his position.

It's very interesting that you mentioned that Joseph was in charge of the Potiphers house and he did not have a wife and he refused to commit adultery with Potiphers wife which resulted in him being false accused and found himself in the dungeons together with the other wicked prisoners and him being innocent. The innocent one made his bed with the wicked. And he was raised up from there and distributed to all the people who came to him the bread of life. 

. And out of the dungeons he was raised up to be sitted on the Throne of Pharaoh while Pharaoh was still alive and He Pharaoh gave him ruler over all and He also gave him an inheritance for him and his Family. That where he was his family can be with him also. Joseph lived in Goshen and his family went to lived with him there also.

Pharaoh gave them this place for their inheritance so they can be together. He said that this is the best place in Egypt and it is your. 

Think about that. 

Edited February 13 by Your closest friendnt

[towardseight]

5 hours ago, Who me said:

Joseph ruler all of Potiphers house, nothing was kept from him 3xcept Potiphers wife. In the same way he rulered over Egypt, he acted as a wise Father to Pharaoh,  but that does not mean that he usurped his place.

When Pharaoh  gave orders Joseph obeyed. He took his father to Pharaoh  to get permission  for his family  to stay.

Pharaoh may have rubber stamped  Joseph's  decisions but that only shows that Joseph took care to maintain his place in the order of that society.

 

Yes morality existed but nothing like the morality we learnt from Jesus.

Joseph used the resources he had wisely and to the advantage of his master. He did not abuse his position.

Genesis 45:8 God has made me a father to Pharaoh and lord of all his household and ruler over all the land of Egypt.

Joseph was the father of Pharaoh, the lord of Pharaoh's household and the ruler of Egypt. How much clearer do you want it to be?

[Who me]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

sitted on the Throne of Pharaoh while Pharaoh was still alive a

Yet he did not sit on Pharaohs throne, like in Potiphas house Joseph had charge of everything, he was not the captain of the guard.

In the same way Joseph  took charge of Egypt for Pharaoh but like with Potipha Joseph was not Pharaoh.  

[Who me]

2 hours ago, towardseight said:

Genesis 45:8 God has made me a father to Pharaoh and lord of all his household and ruler over all the land of Egypt.

Joseph was the father of Pharaoh, the lord of Pharaoh's household and the ruler of Egypt. How much clearer do you want it to be?

Joseph ruled all Egypt for Pharaoh. Read a little further where pharaoh gives orders to Joseph.

Read further, Joseph introduces his Father to Pharaoh, is told where to settle them.

In general 47;20 Joseph  bought All the land for Pharaoh. 

Scripture is clear that Joseph served the Egyptian Pharaoh. 

[towardseight]

28 minutes ago, Who me said:

Joseph ruled all Egypt for Pharaoh. Read a little further where pharaoh gives orders to Joseph.

Read further, Joseph introduces his Father to Pharaoh, is told where to settle them.

In general 47;20 Joseph  bought All the land for Pharaoh. 

Scripture is clear that Joseph served the Egyptian Pharaoh. 

He bought the land for Pharaoh, but he was the lord of Pharaoh's house. Which means that he bought it for himself.

I am convinced that Genesis 45:8 is clear enough. When I look at the relationship between Joseph and Pharaoh, Pharaoh looks to me like a clueless man and Joseph looks like a very clever man who has Pharaoh under control. Joseph had already settled his family in Goshen and only then he told Pharaoh.

Joseph calls himself “Pharaoh's father” which means that Joseph was the one who told Pharaoh what to do.

And the morality that Jesus taught, such as love your neighbor and your enemy, already existed before Jesus. You can find many examples in the Old Testament.

[Your closest friendnt]

53 minutes ago, Who me said:

Yet he did not sit on Pharaohs throne, like in Potiphas house Joseph had charge of everything, he was not the captain of the guard.

In the same way Joseph  took charge of Egypt for Pharaoh but like with Potipha Joseph was not Pharaoh.  

Joseph's events in his life they bring to mind the prophetic of Jesus Christ and what happened to him. 

That after being faithful to what God had given him to do before the Cross. And being falsely accused from the people of God of that time and still looking for his bride he was sentence to the dungeons of the world of the dead. Then when he was raised from the dead God glorified him and made him Lord of all and ruler over all and of his kingdom. That what it means that God sitted Jesus on his Throne and on his right. That this happened for Joseph to be the rulers of the kingdom while the Pharaoh was yet alive. Joseph ruled the Kingdom. While Pharaoh was still alive. In case Pharaoh suddenly died Joseph would be acting as a Pharaoh till the council of the country decides. Considering that Joseph was invited to rule the kingdom. No by an uprising. 

[Rick-Parker]

To the O.P., you seem to be applying your version of morality against the Morality of GOD.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, towardseight said:

He bought the land for Pharaoh, but he was the lord of Pharaoh's house. Which means that he bought it for himself.

I am convinced that Genesis 45:8 is clear enough. When I look at the relationship between Joseph and Pharaoh, Pharaoh looks to me like a clueless man and Joseph looks like a very clever man who has Pharaoh under control. Joseph had already settled his family in Goshen and only then he told Pharaoh.

Joseph calls himself “Pharaoh's father” which means that Joseph was the one who told Pharaoh what to do.

And the morality that Jesus taught, such as love your neighbor and your enemy, already existed before Jesus. You can find many examples in the Old Testament.

Your comments are taken into consideration and are not justified by scripture as scripture is not given to satisfy comments made that refute someone's else comments as comments made. 

You are creating an argument and you have not provide sufficient scripture to support it, that's how I want to prove it.

The same thing you did earlier when you have called Jacob many names that are made by others but are not revealed by scripture. 

Issac about to die he called Esau his first born to give him his blessing of the first born. That is telling us that Esau never lost his right as the first born. Issac never treated him other wise and never in his mind stopped being the first born and never said anything to make Esau think that he was not the firstborn. In his mother mind he is also the first born by the way she talked to Jacob and quided him into deceiving Issac. 

Edited February 13 by Your closest friendnt

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, Rick-Parker said:

To the O.P., you seem to be applying your version of morality against the Morality of GOD.

That never goes well does it

[Who me]

On 2/13/2025 at 8:02 PM, towardseight said:

He bought the land for Pharaoh, but he was the lord of Pharaoh's house. Which means that he bought it for himself.

I am convinced that Genesis 45:8 is clear enough.

 

Pharaoh  may have been an ineffective  monarch, we don't  know, what we do know is that Joseph was a highly moral man who served God and his earthly masters faithfully.

Someone who would not take his masters place.