Polygamy is allowed

[Anne2]

I cant read that. It wont scroll.

But whose polygamous practices are they critiquing?

[kwikphilly]

4 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Hello kwik, I usually agree with you, but here I cannot

They argue that I suppose because that is what it speaks to. If this passage spoke to polygamy it would have.....spoken about multiple wives, but it did not. No need to prohibit any other specific "sort" of woman all together. Levirate marriage was pleasing and acceptable in his sight. Rather for a man to refuse this, was not pleasing and was inacceptable.

De 25:9  Then shall his brother’s wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot, and spit in his face, and shall answer and say, So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother’s house.

Clearly the child born to her, goes to his brother not himself. The firstborn of his brother. What the man who takes the responsibility is not to have his own firstborn son to his name? That would have to come from another woman.

Ex 13:12  That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD’S.

Same as divorce? Again Scripture speaks of divorce, not polygamy. Here is yet another opportunity to speak to polygamy and it does not. 

Mt 19:8  He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

 

Again this passage speaks of not just women, but horses, silver, gold...etc.

Lev 17:16  But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
17  Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Strange wives.  

Again "sort" of women

 

1   But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; {together … : or, beside }
2  Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.
3  And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
4  For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.
 

Paul speaks of not marrying at all. Again nothing concerning polygamy, simply marriage period.

1 Cor 7:27  Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28  But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.

32  But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: {that belong … : Gr. of the Lord }
33  But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
 

The only time it speaks to multiple wives is positions in the Church which. wealth would be necessary to maintain a large household...

Blessings to you  kwik.
 

Oh you don't have to agree with me but yes we usually do

My mention of " divorce" has zero to do with polygamy but had to do with the example of God Making Allowances for mans shortcomings,inability to keep the Law

Blessings to you too Sister.....❤️

 

[Who me]

20 hours ago, Anne2 said:

I cant read that. It wont scroll.

But whose polygamous practices are they critiquing?

Copy of part of it.

Rose McDermott, a professor of political science at Brown University, wrote about her research on polygamy, which is practiced by substantial subcultures in France, Britain, and the U.S., as well as across religious lines in Africa.

According to the information I have helped to collect in the Womanstats database, women in polygynous communities get married younger, have more children, have higher rates of HIV infection than men, sustain more domestic violence, succumb to more female genital mutilation and sex trafficking, and are more likely to die in childbirth. Their life expectancy is also shorter than that of their monogamous sisters. In addition, their children, both boys and girls, are less likely to receive both primary and secondary education.

There are those who might argue that it is precisely because of the illegality of polygamy that these groups are kept from joining mainstream society. But McDermott suggests that another factor is at work:

Polygynist cultures need to create and sustain an underclass of unmarried and undereducated men, since in order to sustain a system where a few men possess all the women, roughly half of boys must leave the community before adulthood. Such societies also spend more money on weapons and display fewer social and political freedoms than do monogamous ones.

When small numbers of men control large numbers of women, the remaining men are likely to be willing to take greater risks and engage in more violence, possibly including terrorism, in order to increase their own wealth and status in hopes of gaining access to women.

The article is about polygamy  where it is legal in third world countries.

Researching polygamy in the west is difficult  because it is not very visible, either hidden in remote area of the states, in gehtos or through the use of multiple  houses.

[1to3]

Holy scripture has refereed our relationship to God as a marriage.

Marriage is to be united into ONE loving , faithful, enduring. relationship, between, one bride and one groom.

It is the union between One bride= bride of Christ and the One groom Christ Jesus (Father Son Holy Spirit)

God created Adam and Eve to become one and in relationship and obedience to G0d.

God has a perfect Law and order.

When sin comes to interfere with Gods Laws and order, the laws become perverted  corrupted and disorder happens

When there are many partners in a "marriage"A Legal Contract, their is always one partner preferred,loved more. This imbalance is in disorder to Gods perfect Laws and order of things

Gods Word says y0u cannot serve God and mammon.

Matthew 6:24 says, "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other". This passage is part of Jesus' Sermon on the Mount

 

we are called to love ONE GOD (no other) with our all.

and  "God is no respecter of persons" Acts 10:34, Romans 2:11

God loves equally each of His children.
 

We who are called by Christ Jesus are one in the ONE body of Christ Jesus

God created ONE partner for Adam : Eve, so the two joined together would be one and in relationship with One God.

 

 

[Hopefully]

Some things in the Bible are prescriptions see below

“That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife. In this way two people become one.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2‬:‭24‬ ‭

Some things are descriptions see below

Various Biblical accounts of men having more than one wife.

Just because you read about people doing things in the Bible doesn’t mean it was the prescribed course of action.

[Anne2]

On 2/28/2025 at 8:24 AM, Who me said:

Polygynist cultures need to create and sustain an underclass of unmarried and undereducated men, since in order to sustain a system where a few men possess all the women, roughly half of boys must leave the community before adulthood. Such societies also spend more money on weapons and display fewer social and political freedoms than do monogamous ones.

This is unbiblical. 

[FriendofJonathan]

Before I was saved, I lived a hedonistic life. I thought laws against polygamy were nothing more than the outcrop of insecure puritanical tyranny. Adultery was always a crime, but many of those same puritans that codified laws against polygamy were themselves adulterers.  Red light districts are okay, but have a second wife? Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. 

Then when I was saved, and began to read and study the Bible, I realized that God's plan for us implies that we remain faithfully monogamous. 

[Who me]

7 hours ago, Anne2 said:

This is unbiblical. 

Yes the practise of polygamy is against the morality taught in the bible.

[Anne2]

On 3/2/2025 at 1:57 PM, Who me said:

Yes the practise of polygamy is against the morality taught in the bible.

This also is unbiblical.

[Anne2]

On 3/2/2025 at 1:44 PM, FriendofJonathan said:

Before I was saved, I lived a hedonistic life. I thought laws against polygamy were nothing more than the outcrop of insecure puritanical tyranny. Adultery was always a crime, but many of those same puritans that codified laws against polygamy were themselves adulterers.  Red light districts are okay, but have a second wife? Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. 

Where people get the notion that marriage is simply about sex, is a modern idea.

 

On 3/2/2025 at 1:44 PM, FriendofJonathan said:

Then when I was saved, and began to read and study the Bible, I realized that God's plan for us implies that we remain faithfully monogamous. 

Marriage is much more than just legal sex. Much more