Works/Fruit?

[tsth]

I would have to say that any action/work stems from believing what we hear. Do we EVER "do" anything for no reason? Now, if that work begins to turn into a self-righteousness/pride issue, then it becomes sin. (Pharisees) They began in belief didn't they? Lest why would they obey in the first place?

In His Love,

Suzanne

[ayin jade]

I hope I do things (the good things at any rate) for the Lord, not for any personal benefit.

[His son]

Just like love, Faith, grace, mercy, righteousness, and Christlikeness the fruits of The Spirit will be manifested in the works. In other words the only acceptable works will be those which are a result of all the above.

The works that are done in an attempt to gain God's favor or to manipulate Him in some way are of no use in our relationship with God. There is no way He can be manipulated.

[tsth]

Matthew 21:28 "But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, 'Son, go, work today in my vineyard.' 29 He answered and said, 'I will not,' but afterward he regretted it and went. 30 Then he came to the second and said likewise. And he answered and said, 'I go, sir,' but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did the will of his father?" They said to Him, "The first." Jesus said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you. 32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.

In His Love,

Suzanne

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AMEN Suzanne

I Just hope and pray daily and some times much more. That I don't have to experience Jonah's hard taught lesson.

In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[tsth]

Are works of interest to God?

Romans 2:5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds": 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Psalms 65:12 Surely you will reward each person according to what he has done.

Proverbs 24:12 Will He not repay each person according to what he has done?

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Repent1]

Greetings to all,

God's blessings

QUOTE

A person cannot of his own will control himself.

[My question]

If this statement were true, then why does God command us to add to our faith (trust) temperance (Moderation and self-restraint, as in behavior or expression)

[God's testimony]

[iI Peter 1:5-8]

5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith (trust) virtue (Moral excellence and righteousness; goodness); and to virtue knowledge;

6 And to knowledge temperance (Moderation and self-restraint, as in behavior or expression); and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren (impotent) nor unfruitful (unproductive) in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[My questions]

Why would God tell us, no command us to add something, if we would not be able to do that thing?

That's like saying that we can't repent of our wickedness, if not, then why does God command us to repent, as part of the restoration process? (Repent and be baptized)

I don't understand, where does your responsibility to the covenant begin

Your brethren in Christ,

Repent1....

[Repent1]

Greetings Suzanne,

Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ .

I think in this instant, examining the spiritual meanings of these words will provide you with the answer:

Fruits---Results

Meet----Fitting/suitable

Works----Actions/deeds/activities

Matthew 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits (results) meet (suitable) for repentance (Remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin) :

My question is, "do you agree with this?" "Are fruits (results) and works (actions/deeds) compatible in meaning to you?"

[My question]

How would you answer that question now, looking at it from this view?

Acts 26:20 But shewed (showed) first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent (cease from willful sin) and turn to God, and do works (actions/deeds/activities) meet (fitting) for repentance (Remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin).

Your brethren in Christ,

Repent1

[tsth]

Dear Repent1,

It's been a while since I last read this thread, so I had to go back to the 1st page and start over. I was in agreement with what you wrote above, but felt that you were leaning towards the 2 being separate. After going back over ALL of the first page of this thread, I still have to sway towards them both being compatible/interchangable. Read the whole first page and tell me what you conclude. There just seem to be SO many passages that make them interchangable.

Thank you for posting, and I look forward to your reply.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Repent1]

Greetings Suzanne,

I pray you the Joy, peace and love of the shepherd of our souls

[You said]

I still have to sway towards them both being compatible/interchangeable.

[My testimony]

I agree with you, they compliment each other, your works (actions/deeds/activities) should bare fruits (results) meet (suitable) for repentance (Remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin):

All this leading to conversion (A fundamental change in one's conversation [ways, behavior, and manner of life]).

[Matthew 18:3-4]

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

[Luke 22:32]

32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

[Acts 3:19]

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Walking with you in the spirit of love,

Your brethren in Christ,

Repent1