Elon Musk - A gift from God or Playing God?

[kwikphilly]

5 hours ago, tatwo said:

How do you determine which half of what you see…to believe?...no I am only kidding kwik <smile>

I am in a similar place as you...with those you have mentioned…so I do not count them as truthful but rather agenda driven…and their agendas are typically quite obvious…so they are easy to detect.

So would you like to proceed with the discussion that you keep suggesting that we return to…”Elon Musk – A Gift From God or Playing God?” and the subsequent OP…or no?

Tatwo…:)

If you'd like because I don't know this fellow personally nor do I know very much about him either-

I did get a chuckle from your little joke- I love a light heart and appreciate humor - all kidding aside,the half I see that I do Believe is that in which is Revealed to me,no credit to me - of course the Glory belongs to God

Each of us have a Wonderful Purpose- isn't it marvelous that we can Join one another here at Worthy to listen,share,Testify and learn about our Brothers and Sisters?Am I to understand that you're in the field of technology or have some sort of personal

affiliations when you say you've " followed" MrMusk & those men and women who personally know or do business with him?

The reason I ask(& of course you are not obliged to answer) is because I have ties and personal affiliations,or rather " had" with public figures who are often spoken about myself-so you can surely relate to reading everyone's opinions about people they do not know....but it's the way it is for public figures,isn't it?

Everything we see going on in this world is Spiritual Warfare-getting down to what's really going on is exactly as you say it is- the atmosphere of fear,anxiety and a very troubled society is ever increasing and will continue to for those OF this world - and yes,for those of us walking in Spirit & in Truth,though we have nothing to fear we are not to walk around in ignorant bliss but to prepare physically as best we can for the coming days( if,with  myself for example- I'm still here,I don't expect I will be but that doesn't mean I wont)

I guess these are things we can talk about in another Thread( msybe you'd like to start one?) You know we see alot of Topics referencing End Times and Interpreting Prophecy as we can see it unfolding throughout our own lifetime yet I really haven't seen much discussion on what Christians do " physically" to prepare or be equipped for....and I'm not talking about a Prepper thread( is thst what they call it? Preppers?)

Anyway,now I'm completely going off Topic!!!rofl.... so easy to do,,isn't it?

So yeah- I'd like to know more about Elon Musk if you could share what you know about him- & possibly how you've gathered your information....

In your own words do you think he has a god complex? What does he believe?Someone mentioned a Contemporary Christian- I don't even know what thst means,I take it to mean he is an unbelievers,you are Born Again or you're not- Spirit Filled or dead in sin,Believer or unbeliever- agree?

❤️Kwik

 

 

 

[In the Clouds]

If you want to know what Musk is, you have to look at his past.  By his past I mean how he was raised by his mother and the relationship he had with his father.  His mother taught her boys to work hard and not rely on anyone else for an easy ride.  She insisted that Elon never quit learning or applying himself.  She told the boys that they could go into any field they wished and to strive for excellence.  Elon has many interests and talents.  He has an innovative mind.

From his father, Elon remembers harshness and unfaithfulness.  His father was a successful business man and had a harsh side which Elon learned how not to be.  This did not stifle Elon and is one reason he has a playful personality.

IMO, Elon loves the challenge of his DOGE position and is going through a metamorphosis.  

[tatwo]

16 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

If you'd like because I don't know this fellow personally nor do I know very much about him either-

I did get a chuckle from your little joke- I love a light heart and appreciate humor - all kidding aside,the half I see that I do Believe is that in which is Revealed to me,no credit to me - of course the Glory belongs to God

Each of us have a Wonderful Purpose- isn't it marvelous that we can Join one another here at Worthy to listen,share,Testify and learn about our Brothers and Sisters?

Yes we are all uniquely called by the desire of our Father…it is awesome…though I have found that most have no idea what their call is?

I do enjoy “Worthy” most of the time…it is what you make of it…I really do enjoy testimonies and can get a “bigger” picture of what is happening in the church.

16 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Am I to understand that you're in the field of technology or have some sort of personal

affiliations when you say you've " followed" MrMusk & those men and women who personally know or do business with him?

I was a tech director at a big tech company as I climbed through the ranks…I loved it. As a result I really got into the whole “enterprise computing environment” which allowed me to experience and learn the tech world to a much deeper level. Today I have a functional working knowledge of the tech industry…though things change rapidly.

I have never met Elon…nor had any direct connection with any of his actual business’s…my connection to him is purely research based. He popped up on my tech radar several years ago when he was for a time partnered with a man named Peter Thiel in what became “PayPal” in the late 1990’s or early 2000’s. I was already researching along the lines of “digital payment” possibilities…so these guys were among the leaders in the industry that I watched.

Having been called by the Lord Yahshua in the mid 1980’s it really did not take long for me to begin to function in a “prophetic grace” that the Lord had given me. Add to that my desire for big tech and I began to dive into a deep study of the eschaton…or the end of the age as presented in the Revelation of Yahshua Christ…where I think technology plays a significant role.

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

16 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

The reason I ask(& of course you are not obliged to answer) is because I have ties and personal affiliations,or rather " had" with public figures who are often spoken about myself-so you can surely relate to reading everyone's opinions about people they do not know....but it's the way it is for public figures,isn't it?

I would agree for the most part…I do not bother to present anything that has not been verified via several sources…and typically over time and I try to be careful how I present people. Some of those sources are out of the view of the main stream media and its propaganda partner and often times controlled opposition...the “alternative main stream media.”

As you are aware…the controlled media has been and increasingly is…running cover for the…now I am not political…not at all…I have no affiliation to any party…I am a loyal citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven here on earth…so I am not choosing one political side or another here kwik. But…90% of the media outlets here in the US are owned by 5 or 6 corporations who are the mouth piece for what I will call a “parallel government.”

I try not to use terms like "deep state or shadow government" if at all possible yet they are applicable but...they tend to draw attention to being red or blue politically...and that bothers people. I use the term "parallel government" because it can cover both the spiritual aspects of governments as well as the temporal aspects. 

There are a number of “tech industry and related journalists” who have been writing and reporting for years…some that I have read and followed closely since 2006’ish. I am confident that I understand most of what I know…but the tech industry can be tricky and unbeknownst to many…there is a very interesting and powerful “dark spiritual element” that flows right along with it. Hence my interest…

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

17 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Everything we see going on in this world is Spiritual Warfare-getting down to what's really going on is exactly as you say it is- the atmosphere of fear,anxiety and a very troubled society is ever increasing and will continue to for those OF this world - and yes,for those of us walking in Spirit & in Truth,though we have nothing to fear we are not to walk around in ignorant bliss but to prepare physically as best we can for the coming days( if,with  myself for example- I'm still here,I don't expect I will be but that doesn't mean I wont)

Great perspective kwikphilly…and for the most part I agree with you. I believe that the Body of Christ…which includes it’s glorious head Yahshua…and our brothers and sisters will lead the way on the earth...all the way through to the end of the age.

This is to bring forth the completion or fulfillment of the Father of creations desire and purpose for putting the created heavens and earth in place to begin with…which is to bring forth “a man in the image and likeness of Christ”…in which He will dwell for eternity...He will do that...He is doing that.

So in terms of the process of fulfilling the “eschaton”…the Body of Christ that is alive in the flesh in these days…will be on the earth doing exactly as the Lord Yahshua has loved, raised, taught, disciplined, trained us/them to do. Which is to grow and mature in our calling…and then to carry the full grace and glory of God on the earth in an open display of the Fathers love for His creation.

It’s not a popular belief…however it fully embodies the Truth of who “Christ” actually is…which as I have encountered in my sojourn here…is the most misunderstood “being” there ever has been.

17 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I guess these are things we can talk about in another Thread( msybe you'd like to start one?)

Good idea kwik…let me see what I can do

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

17 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

You know we see alot of Topics referencing End Times and Interpreting Prophecy as we can see it unfolding throughout our own lifetime yet I really haven't seen much discussion on what Christians do " physically" to prepare or be equipped for....and I'm not talking about a Prepper thread( is thst what they call it? Preppers?)

It seems to me that there is good reason for that sister…with the “pre-trib rapture theology” being as prevalent and popular as it is in the institutional religions…what would preparation is actually needed? Additionally…what would there be to actually prepare for?

I understand that those who follow this thinking are “watching and waiting” for the Lords "secret" return as they believe He has told them. They go to church, support the church, do nice things for people in need, act in a manner they believe pleases God...which…if your into that…I say have at it…time will reveal the Truth of any and all error really.

This model of belief not only reduces the perceived need for any temporal preparation for the days and times we're in…and that are forth coming. It also cloaks the very real Truth about the Fathers expectation of our spiritual growth to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ…according to His calling.

Paul said in Ephesians 2:10 “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.”  These pre-trib rapture folks seemed to have lost sight of the fact that those who are His…are “His workmanship” and that “He created” them to live and act in a manner that fulfills the “good works” the “He prepared” for them "beforehand" by “His own desire” to “walk in?

Those who know this…"are being lovingly and meticulously prepared" according to our Fathers desire…the Kingdom of God was always a “Father & Son” reality.

In my experience...the church goers do not seem to know about their unique and divine call from God kwik? They go to church…get saved…live as they see best for them…and either die and go to heaven or live and be raptured to heaven. Either way your destination is go to the created realm called heaven…none of which forms mans rebellious soul into Christ’s likeness.

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

17 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

So yeah- I'd like to know more about Elon Musk if you could share what you know about him- & possibly how you've gathered your information....

Well I attempted to start a discussion about Elon and the others like him in the following forum…

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/310053-did-the-broligarchy-grab-the-pulpit-on-the-way-to-washington/

It was a melding of some of the pertinent spiritual and scriptural principals with the current kings of the earth…such as Elon and company…it did not go far. I think that trying to present a neutral and spiritual perspective is either something evangelical nationalists do not want to think about…or…they do not understand it.

I am working on a more detailed and up-to-date story bringing to light the works of the dragon and its beast in today’s world…illuminated by the seven lamps of fire surrounding the throne of God. Sounds crazy I suppose…but it’s the perspective that counts here...and seemingly no one around here wants to deconstruct that scene from Revelation 4…that does not mean I have not.

17 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

In your own words do you think he has a god complex? What does he believe?Someone mentioned a Contemporary Christian- I don't even know what thst means,I take it to mean he is an unbelievers,you are Born Again or you're not- Spirit Filled or dead in sin,Believer or unbeliever- agree?

Yeh I think you could say that he has a god complex from a purely spiritual perspective…I contend that he is a system operator of great authority…both financial and dark spiritual…I am not sure he would even understand the latter.

Either Spirit filled or dead…Truth.

Tatwo...:)

[kwikphilly]

7 hours ago, tatwo said:

Well I attempted to start a discussion about Elon and the others like him in the following forum…

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/310053-did-the-broligarchy-grab-the-pulpit-on-the-way-to-washington/

It was a melding of some of the pertinent spiritual and scriptural principals with the current kings of the earth…such as Elon and company…it did not go far. I think that trying to present a neutral and spiritual perspective is either something evangelical nationalists do not want to think about…or…they do not understand it.

I am working on a more detailed and up-to-date story bringing to light the works of the dragon and its beast in today’s world…illuminated by the seven lamps of fire surrounding the throne of God. Sounds crazy I suppose…but it’s the perspective that counts here...and seemingly no one around here wants to deconstruct that scene from Revelation 4…that does not mean I have not.

Yeh I think you could say that he has a god complex from a purely spiritual perspective…I contend that he is a system operator of great authority…both financial and dark spiritual…I am not sure he would even understand the latter.

Either Spirit filled or dead…Truth.

Tatwo...:)

Thanks for all your very detailed replies to my specific questions for you- love it!

Do tag me ( please) when ( if)you do put something together like we've talked about- I'd be very interested as we are in One Accord ,our carnal minds can have differing opinions-it's wonderful to reason together and seems we have very similar perspectives regarding society,govt etc- I do like your way of saying a parallel govt in keeping politics out of the equation as politics are just so irrelevant to me personally

Don't get me wrong,as a person who lives in America & in this world there are policies I agree with or disagree with but that's secondary for me,I'm more interested in what's really going on- lol

It's nice to talk to someone thst knows so much about technology(as I do not) and also the role it is playing Spiritually regarding those authorities in high places,principalities,rulers of darkness .... we can just feel that presence( in our Spirit) in our atmosphere, on high alert!More than ever before

God Bless you- look forward to more talks!

In His Love,Kwik

I'm very interested in your mention of the creation of " pay pal" and digital payments....here's where I have seen man's complacency,just out of his own " convenience" it has taken us to an ever increasing spiral downwards out of "control"- just handing over any & all power and authority- I want to start a Thread about this,I hope you'll join in❤️

 

[irishbeast]

On 2/24/2025 at 3:52 PM, tatwo said:

Elon Musk - A gift from God or Playing God?

Greetings @irishbeast...

So you are aware of some of his “works” and admire them. I think I can understand that…largely due to the alleged success he has had in certain projects. There is a whole back story to this character...irish…that you may or may not be aware of. The reason I mention that is because once I realized through an abundance of research concerning him, his persona, and his affiliations…I saw a different man than who was presented by the main and much of the alternative stream medias.

He’s a man and I am not suggesting anything else…and in that…he is just a man. I am convinced that some of his “projects” be they successful or not…are a type of smokescreen for his actual intentions. Let me give you an example…

He gets a couple of fellow multi-billionaires to invest in the purchase of “Twitter” late in 2022 in the run up to the 2024 election. He invites a couple of journalists in…to go over the records or logs produced in part by the actions of the sitting administration. Once these journalists see what twitter was doing in terms of censorship in regards to the right…Musk opens a “limited hangout” for folks to check out some of what was actually happening at Twitter.

But not everything…hence the “limited hangout”…once the info he wanted to come out…came out…for the purpose of his intentions…he shut down the limited hangout and proceeded to some degree to engage in his own form of censorship.

As time progressed towards the election…Musk infused the RNC and the Trump campaign with over $270 million dollars…a sum…that former Trump strategist and 30+ year Washington DC veteran Steve Bannon said…was the largest donation to a presidential campaign that he had ever seen.

So Musk had purchased and rewired “Twitter/X” to support “Free speech” meaning a considerably heavier “right” perspective for America to digest.  Then the effectively bought the Trump campaign...the U.S. presidency.

Hard to accept…perhaps…but not really?

Just look at Musk now…tearing through the U.S. Corporation like its new Chief Executive Officer…while the chairman of the board runs interference.  The “new look” the U.S. Corporation is taking on…if they succeed…will be very different than what Americans are used to and fond of.

This is just a partial commentary on the 2 year timeframe leading up to the election…more importantly is the “business affiliations” that Musk has built for years and their collective and ultimate intentions for the U.S. Corporation. The intentions and aspirations this group of “global capitalist broligarchs and their dream empire” are playing out right now in front of the entire world.

The problem for most people is…they do not recognize what they are looking at. This is an empire like no other empire in the history of empires! This is a global empire with totalitarian objectives…and is well entrenched for many decades and likely longer.

I am thinking about writing more about this…merely to prepare those who know that change is here and will likely require significant adjustments…if you will.

Tatwo...:)

I have read quite a lot on his background etc and there's no doubt in my mind that he's not being completely neutral aligning with his desired persona as a some sport of free speech hero. Its nice to think someone would spend 40 odd million for the greater good but there's no doubt he is using the platform to amplify his own thoughts and ideas, or to ram them down people's throats if I am being less polite. 

I was saying to a friend about 6 months ago half jokingly that hes trying to conquer to world to resolve some demons he is facing which seemed absurd. Is it really that absurd now.........

[irishbeast]

Some really interesting discussion here. Hope I have not missed any prompts. Not been on for a while and came back to find this topic had picked up big time. 

In relation to AI I think people should watch the latest video from Mo Gambit, a prominent figure in the AI world who quite his job right at the top of googles AI team out of nowhere now has risen from the dead and spoke out. Its quite the eye opener! look for Mo Gawdat "I warned people" or words to that effect and look at most recent videos. Some are quite terrifying but I believe everything he said.