Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Your post went in circles a few times and my brain is swimming trying to figure it out, lol

Follow ch 17 and 18.

God talked to Abraham and Abraham said to him may Ismael be blessed. 

He question God. 

In 17 God told him when I ask you to do something you have to do it.

The Jewish religion is works. Taking part in the Jewish calendar. 

The quiding stars in the Jewish religion. 

It starts with the new moon in the end of March or the beginning of April. Then the feast of Passover in two weeks, full moon. The Unleavened Bread Holidays and the participants continue to the day of Atonement. 

These are the guiding stars and the moons in the Jewish religion. 

This is why the Lord said regarding the their quiding moons. The moon will turn into blood and the stars will loose their light, turn into darkness and fall on the earth. The end of the Jewish religion. That's all about it.

The Light of the Lord will guide his people from now on. 

Edited May 31 by Your closest friendnt

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Follow ch 17 and 18.

God talked to Abraham and Abraham said to him may Ismael be blessed. 

He question God. 

In 17 God told him when I ask you to do something you have to do it.

The Jewish religion is works. Taking part in the Jewish calendar. 

The quiding stars in the Jewish religion. 

It starts with the new moon in the end of March or the beginning of April. Then the feast of Passover in two weeks, full moon. The Unleavened Bread Holidays and the participants continue to the day of Atonement. 

These are the guiding stars and the moons in the Jewish religion. 

This is why the Lord said regarding the their quiding moons. The moon will turn into blood and the stars will loose their light, turn into darkness and fall on the earth. The end of the Jewish religion. That's all about it.

The Light of the Lord will guide his people from now on. 

The New Moons, Sabbath Days and Feast Of Tabernacles Will Be In The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

[In1]

8 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The New Moons, Sabbath Days and Feast Of Tabernacles Will Be In The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

It seems there will still be those who will not come up to keep the feast even after its all said and done ... ?

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

The New Moons, Sabbath Days and Feast Of Tabernacles Will Be In The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Good for discussion. A little busy today. Thanks for the post. 

[Anne2]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

The New Moons, Sabbath Days and Feast Of Tabernacles Will Be In The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

What of these verses?

Re 21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Re 21:24  And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

Rev 22:5  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

[Jaydub]

On 5/28/2025 at 11:54 PM, Your closest friendnt said:

Abraham, Moses and the other people you have in mind they were not disciples of Jesus Christ. 

No one of them had his sins forgiven in Jesus Christ death on the Cross. 

What do you think of temple worship, all temple worship points to Christ. Take the arc of the covenant, The arc of the covenant is a picture of Jesus.

Inside the arc of the covenant, you have the ten commandments, the word of God. Jesus the Word

Inside the Arc there is the mana from heaven. Jesus is the bread of life, the bread from heaven

inside the arc there is Aron's rod. The branch that was dead and came back to life.

 Jesus is the resurrection.   The arc of the covenant is a picture of Jesus and once a year the high priest would sprinkle blood on it, for the forgiveness of sin. A picture of Jesus dying for the forgiveness of sin

I too dis agree with you, temple worship always pointed to the cross and we as Christians are always looking back to the cross. The cross was and is the center of our faith. 

 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

6 hours ago, Anne2 said:

What of these verses?

Re 21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Re 21:24  And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

Rev 22:5  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

This must apply to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ and it should. 

Christians today also have their doctrinal light to guide them.  

Edited May 31 by Your closest friendnt

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This must apply to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ and it should. 

Christians today also have their doctrinal light to guide them.  

We still have the sun and moon today; for the Just and the Unjust.

During the Mill; the same Just and Unjust; yet Jesus Christ the King of Kings and Lord of Lords is the light.  Zech 14:6,7  - On that day there will be no light, no cold or frost.  It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime; a day known to the Lord.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Michael37]

On 5/30/2025 at 8:16 AM, Luther said:

Kind of mysterious. But I do know that if there's no more sorrow, there won't be any connection with the previous world because if we knew who was not In heaven we would have sadness. Make sense?

Awareness that Christ the Lamb of God was slain to secure redemption for all who populate heaven is an eternal characteristic of Eternal Life.

The Eternal Worship of our Eternal Saviour, for another thread.

[FreeGrace]

On 3/6/2025 at 8:31 PM, Luther said:

Luke 17:20-21 KJV

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

[21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

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The kingdom of God is made up of Christians , symbolically "lively stones" and Jesus is the " living stone" ( 1 Peter 2: 3-5). We are " found in Him"  (Philippians 3:9) having the righteousness of God by His faith. We are reigning with our Lord right now           (2 Timothy 2:12, Revelation 5:10).

 As you can see, we are intimately associated with our Savior. We are what makes up His kingdom. 

Nowhere does God say He has two kingdoms, one for Christians and one for a future group of  people in a politically acquired state called Israel. No scripture like that exists. Anyone who believes that is following after a false doctrine. 

ONE KINGDOM. You must understand that the kingdom of God ( in Jesus Christ) has been in formation since the beginning of time, since men began " to call upon the name of the LORD "  (Genesis 4:26). 

The churches are being deceived by the children of the devil who want their own kingdom on this earth without Jesus Christ, the One they fear the most. They have gone to great lengths to steal the wonderful promises found in the OT regarding all in Christ, a temple being built by His "lively stones", and place themselves there....of course when all the Christians are " raptured". 

Psalm 2:6-7 KJV

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

[7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Hebrews 1:5,8 KJV

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

( Jesus is only setting up ONE THRONE, in heaven)

Psalm 145:10-13 KJV

All thy works shall praise thee, O LORD; and thy saints shall bless thee.

[11] They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;

[12] To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom.

[13] Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.

(There is one kingdom, for Christians, not of this world):

John 18:36 KJV

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

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If you are fighting for your kingdom to be set up on this earth, not only is there zero  Biblical support for that, it certainly would not be a kingdom from  God. If you are deceiving many to support you for that cause, that's even worse. 

Below is an excerpt from a book I highly recommend:

"The Bible: a literal futurist hermeneutic assessed

It has been shown that the development of a literal and futurist reading of Scripture and, in particular, the argument that Old Testament references to Israel apply to contemporary Jews and the State of Israel rather than the church, is directly attributable to Irving, Darby and those who attended the Albury and Powerscourt conferences of the 1820s and 1830s. These were given particular expression in Darby's dispensational scheme and then codified and accorded virtually canonical status in the Scofield Reference Bible. Sandeen observes that dis-pensationalism has 'a frozen biblical text in which every word was supported by the same weight of divine authority', 107 Clarence Bass goes further, insisting:

 

No part of historic Christian doctrine supports this radical distinction between church and kingdom. To be sure they are not identical; but Dispensationalism has added the idea that the kingdom was to be a restoration of Israel, not a consummation of the church."

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Consummation? Absolutely:

1 Corinthians 15:23-24 KJV

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

[24] Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Everyone in Christ, who makes up the kingdom of God, becomes one with the Father. And that's the end of this world. No foolish talk of a continuation of another kingdom for others besides Christians. It is done. 

Acts 19:8 KJV

And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Can't you see? Paul went to the jews to get them out of the synagogues and into the kingdom of God ( body of Christ). Did he say to them, "Don't worry, Christ will set up a kingdom on this sin cursed earth so your future people who reject my Savior will have a thousand years to get right with Him?" 

Today is the day of salvation. 

Matthew 25:34 KJV

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Luke 22:29-30 KJV

And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; [30] That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

For those who believe the title of this thread is true, how do you ignore Rev 20?