The Mystery of Power in the Tower of Babel and the Whore of Babylon

[Ogner]

5 hours ago, chirpy said:

What you describe is greed. 

I see the tower of babel representing arrogance and denying God.  Their hearts had grown cold and they were saying we no longer need a God, we can accomplish things and get along just fine without a God. 

Today, globalization imparts the same arrogance and denial of God.  With our science and evolution into transhumanism  we can become gods.  We humans can govern and manage without God and all will be fine.

History is replete with examples of the ineptitude of humans being able to self govern.  You are correct in that human nature does not change, and that is why only God can govern.  

And He will through His Son Jesus, be the final governor.

Your comment raises an important point, and I partially agree with you, but let’s dig deeper. You’re right that greed is a key element in what I described in the parallels between the Tower of Babel and capitalism. However, greed here isn’t just a personal flaw—it’s a systemic force driving elites who exploit the masses for profit and power, much like the leaders of Babel used fear for control. In my analysis, capitalism isn’t only about greed but also a structure that mirrors the tower’s pride.

You’re spot on that the Tower of Babel represents arrogance and a denial of God. The builders wanted "to make a name for ourselves" (Genesis 11:4), rejecting His authority and relying on their own strength. Their cold hearts reflect a refusal to depend on God, a belief they could manage without Him. Today’s globalization, as you noted, carries that same arrogance and denial: science, transhumanism, technology—all pitched as a path to godhood, where humanity becomes its own "god." Capitalism fuels this illusion, promising that progress and wealth can replace spiritual truth.

History is indeed full of examples of human ineptitude at self-governance—from Babel to modern empires. You’re correct that human nature doesn’t change, and that’s why I see in capitalism the same pride and blindness as in the tower. We agree that only God can truly govern. And, as you said, He will do so through His Son Jesus, the final governor. My text simply illustrates how this cycle of arrogance repeats—from the tower through capitalism to the future judgment, where God will restore His order.

[chirpy]

Because of our corrupt human nature -

capitalism - communism - socialism -totalitarianism - none will ever fully work.  History shows we will always go through the cycle of government styles. 

Come Lord

Maranatha!

[Dennis1209]

9 minutes ago, chirpy said:

Because of our corrupt human nature -

capitalism - communism - socialism -totalitarianism - none will ever fully work.  History shows we will always go through the cycle of government styles. 

Come Lord

Maranatha!

The Cycle of Nations:

(1) From bondage to spiritual faith.

(2) From spiritual faith to great courage.

(3) From courage to liberty.

(4) From liberty to abundance.

(5) From abundance to selfishness.

(6) From selfishness to complacency.

(7) From complacency to apathy.

(8) From apathy to dependency.

(9) From dependency back again into bondage.

--Sir Alex Fraser Tyler, A Scottish jurist, and historian

[Ogner]

1 hour ago, chirpy said:

Because of our corrupt human nature -

capitalism - communism - socialism -totalitarianism - none will ever fully work.  History shows we will always go through the cycle of government styles. 

Come Lord

Maranatha!

You’re right—our corrupt human nature dooms every system—capitalism, communism, socialism, totalitarianism—to failure, and history confirms this with an endless cycle of shifting regimes. But your comment, with its cry of "Come Lord, Maranatha!" points to a deeper truth: we’re living in times when the prophecies of the Apocalypse are coming to pass. The fall of the Babylonian harlot, foretold in Revelation (Rev. 18), isn’t just the end of another system—it’s the harbinger of the dark reign of the Antichrist, where the number of the beast will mark a new order.

What is the number of the beast? Revelation 13:16–18 says: "It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666." Many see this as a foreshadowing of modern technology: barcodes, QR codes, digital currencies—all creeping into our lives. In China, for example, the social credit system with QR codes dictates what people can buy or where they can go. Digital wallets and cards are replacing cash, making it hard to function without them—early steps toward "no one could buy or sell" without the mark.

It’s like an electronic concentration camp, where control becomes total. In Sweden, people are already implanting microchips for payments or access—right into their hands, as the prophecy describes. After the fall of the Babylonian harlot, symbolizing today’s world of greed and corruption, the Antichrist will rise, using these technologies to establish his grim kingdom. Capitalism, with its race for profit and globalization, is paving the way, turning people into cogs in a system reliant on digital "marks."

all this must come to pass. The Bible is clear: "All these things must happen" (Matt. 24:6). The fall of the harlot, the number of the beast, the reign of the Antichrist—these are stages foretold in Scripture, leading to the final judgment and Christ’s return. "Maranatha!" is our cry for salvation in these times, as the prophecies unfold before our eyes.

 

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, Ogner said:

Your comment raises an important point, and I partially agree with you, but let’s dig deeper. You’re right that greed is a key element in what I described in the parallels between the Tower of Babel and capitalism. However, greed here isn’t just a personal flaw—it’s a systemic force driving elites who exploit the masses for profit and power, much like the leaders of Babel used fear for control. In my analysis, capitalism isn’t only about greed but also a structure that mirrors the tower’s pride.

You’re spot on that the Tower of Babel represents arrogance and a denial of God. The builders wanted "to make a name for ourselves" (Genesis 11:4), rejecting His authority and relying on their own strength. Their cold hearts reflect a refusal to depend on God, a belief they could manage without Him. Today’s globalization, as you noted, carries that same arrogance and denial: science, transhumanism, technology—all pitched as a path to godhood, where humanity becomes its own "god." Capitalism fuels this illusion, promising that progress and wealth can replace spiritual truth.

History is indeed full of examples of human ineptitude at self-governance—from Babel to modern empires. You’re correct that human nature doesn’t change, and that’s why I see in capitalism the same pride and blindness as in the tower. We agree that only God can truly govern. And, as you said, He will do so through His Son Jesus, the final governor. My text simply illustrates how this cycle of arrogance repeats—from the tower through capitalism to the future judgment, where God will restore His order.

I am not going into all the details to conserve my limited supply of cyber ink. Yesterday, I watched Fox News interview Elon Musk about his accomplishments. When Musk started outlining his plans and objectives for Neuralink and human potential, Biblical prophecy flooded my God-given brain.

Science fiction meets conspiracy theory, which is now here today, resulting in transhumanism. Musk said that after helping the brain and physical trauma restore mobility, the next step is to interface with normal brains to make people more intelligent and faster and make their senses far beyond the natural. Human experimentation is approved and underway at present. All the above, not to mention robotic involvement and DNA splicing and tampering, are crossing the “kind” barrier.

Neuralink — Pioneering Brain Computer Interfaces

There are many speculations of precisely what the Mark of the Beast is. What we know is that it involves allegiance and worship of the Beast, which is associated with the hand or forehead. What is in a little two-letter word (in – on)? c.f.

Revelation 14:9 (KJV) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the Beast and his image, and receive his mark in (subdermal) his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:9 (ESV) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the Beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

The KJV says in, most other translations it says on, which is it. If the KJV is correct, there is a big difference if we are talking about something the size of a baseball or a grain of rice. I associate this “mark” with being plugged into the system; no one can participate in society or commerce without it.

In the chronology and time in the Book of Revelation, we see that those who receive this mark receive it in about the span it took for the public to accept the once jab, and you are done initial COVID-19 jab exceptionally fast. In their minds, there was a great incentive and need.

Knowledge has always been worshipped, from the tree of knowledge through the apostle Paul’s discourse on Mar’s Hill in Greece, to this day. Mankind has always been in search of knowledge and worshipped it. Artificial intelligence is becoming the hope and savior of mankind’s problems and solutions, not God.

Today, it does not take an Einstein, Sagan, deGrasse, Kaku, or Stephen Hawkins to figure out where all this is headed, prophetically speaking.

[NConly]

Before man finds out it will be over.

Ecc 3

11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

Ecc 8

17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it.

Ecc 11

5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

Dan 12

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

[Ogner]

1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said:

I am not going into all the details to conserve my limited supply of cyber ink. Yesterday, I watched Fox News interview Elon Musk about his accomplishments. When Musk started outlining his plans and objectives for Neuralink and human potential, Biblical prophecy flooded my God-given brain.

Science fiction meets conspiracy theory, which is now here today, resulting in transhumanism. Musk said that after helping the brain and physical trauma restore mobility, the next step is to interface with normal brains to make people more intelligent and faster and make their senses far beyond the natural. Human experimentation is approved and underway at present. All the above, not to mention robotic involvement and DNA splicing and tampering, are crossing the “kind” barrier.

Neuralink — Pioneering Brain Computer Interfaces

There are many speculations of precisely what the Mark of the Beast is. What we know is that it involves allegiance and worship of the Beast, which is associated with the hand or forehead. What is in a little two-letter word (in – on)? c.f.

Revelation 14:9 (KJV) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the Beast and his image, and receive his mark in (subdermal) his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:9 (ESV) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the Beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

The KJV says in, most other translations it says on, which is it. If the KJV is correct, there is a big difference if we are talking about something the size of a baseball or a grain of rice. I associate this “mark” with being plugged into the system; no one can participate in society or commerce without it.

In the chronology and time in the Book of Revelation, we see that those who receive this mark receive it in about the span it took for the public to accept the once jab, and you are done initial COVID-19 jab exceptionally fast. In their minds, there was a great incentive and need.

Knowledge has always been worshipped, from the tree of knowledge through the apostle Paul’s discourse on Mar’s Hill in Greece, to this day. Mankind has always been in search of knowledge and worshipped it. Artificial intelligence is becoming the hope and savior of mankind’s problems and solutions, not God.

Today, it does not take an Einstein, Sagan, deGrasse, Kaku, or Stephen Hawkins to figure out where all this is headed, prophetically speaking.

Just 100 or even 50 years ago, it was difficult for people to understand the Book of Revelation by the Apostle John the Theologian (the Apocalypse). The Book of Revelation is one of the most complex in Holy Scripture to comprehend. Very few Church Fathers and theologians dared to interpret and expound upon it. However, much of what was shrouded in mystery in Revelation for centuries has unexpectedly begun to clarify in the 20th and especially the 21st centuries, as many of its prophecies have started to come true.

This very fact—that the mysteries of understanding Revelation are being unveiled now—is what I consider yet another sign of the end times, the beginning, or even the approach to the midpoint of the Apocalypse.
The Babylonian harlot is not merely the global financial system based on the dollar. It’s not just the IMF. It’s not only offshore entities, offshore oligarchs, and offshore citizens with their offshore accounts and passports—the so-called "citizens of the world" who live in Monaco today, Florida tomorrow, and Dubai the day after. It’s not just transnational corporations and transnational capital with assets spanning the globe.
It’s not only the international free labor market, where transnational companies hire workers in countries where labor is cheaper, resulting in the importation of millions of migrant workers who essentially have no rights, who will work for wages below the minimum rate, 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and live in barracks, "rubber apartments," or dormitories with one bed shared by two people. As a consequence, this "international labor market" undercuts local labor markets, forcing native citizens to work harder for less money amid fierce competition.

It’s not just consumers who buy goods where they’re cheaper or where there are bigger discounts, rather than supporting local producers. It’s not just transnational online "marketplaces" like AliExpress, Amazon, iHerb, eBay...
It’s not only the transnational speculative market of currencies, stocks, and securities... That is, it’s not just international exchanges: NYSE, NASDAQ, ENX, SSE, JPX...
It’s not only Hollywood, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Apple... and the global entertainment industry as a whole.
It’s not just the American government, which serves the "Babylonian harlot" and essentially protects and sustains the transnational capital and financial system based on the dollar—acting, in essence, like a prostitute serving anyone who pays well.

While all this is epitomized by New York, and particularly Wall Street, the "Babylonian harlot" is the totality of all the above, yet more than that. It is, in essence, the spirit of prostitution.
The judgment of the Babylonian harlot is described in the Book of Revelation by the Apostle John the Theologian (the Apocalypse), Chapter 17:
"The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:16–18)
In the same Chapter 17 of the Apocalypse, it is stated that the ten horns are ten kings, i.e., nations, that will devour the "great harlot." In other words, they will destroy this entire financial system with its spirit of prostitution. There will be no more offshore havens, no more offshore passports, but rather a single world government. Then the ten kings will hand over all their authority to the "Beast":
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast." (Revelation 17:12–13)
And then the Beast will establish a new system: "It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name." (Revelation 13:16–17)
In other words, the Beast will create an electronic concentration camp.
In Revelation by John the Theologian, verses 5–6 of Chapter 13 of the Apocalypse state that the reign of the Antichrist will last 3.5 years (or 42 months).
Then will come the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

 

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, Ogner said:

Just 100 or even 50 years ago, it was difficult for people to understand the Book of Revelation by the Apostle John the Theologian (the Apocalypse). The Book of Revelation is one of the most complex in Holy Scripture to comprehend. Very few Church Fathers and theologians dared to interpret and expound upon it. However, much of what was shrouded in mystery in Revelation for centuries has unexpectedly begun to clarify in the 20th and especially the 21st centuries, as many of its prophecies have started to come true.

This very fact—that the mysteries of understanding Revelation are being unveiled now—is what I consider yet another sign of the end times, the beginning, or even the approach to the midpoint of the Apocalypse.
The Babylonian harlot is not merely the global financial system based on the dollar. It’s not just the IMF. It’s not only offshore entities, offshore oligarchs, and offshore citizens with their offshore accounts and passports—the so-called "citizens of the world" who live in Monaco today, Florida tomorrow, and Dubai the day after. It’s not just transnational corporations and transnational capital with assets spanning the globe.
It’s not only the international free labor market, where transnational companies hire workers in countries where labor is cheaper, resulting in the importation of millions of migrant workers who essentially have no rights, who will work for wages below the minimum rate, 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and live in barracks, "rubber apartments," or dormitories with one bed shared by two people. As a consequence, this "international labor market" undercuts local labor markets, forcing native citizens to work harder for less money amid fierce competition.

It’s not just consumers who buy goods where they’re cheaper or where there are bigger discounts, rather than supporting local producers. It’s not just transnational online "marketplaces" like AliExpress, Amazon, iHerb, eBay...
It’s not only the transnational speculative market of currencies, stocks, and securities... That is, it’s not just international exchanges: NYSE, NASDAQ, ENX, SSE, JPX...
It’s not only Hollywood, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Apple... and the global entertainment industry as a whole.
It’s not just the American government, which serves the "Babylonian harlot" and essentially protects and sustains the transnational capital and financial system based on the dollar—acting, in essence, like a prostitute serving anyone who pays well.

While all this is epitomized by New York, and particularly Wall Street, the "Babylonian harlot" is the totality of all the above, yet more than that. It is, in essence, the spirit of prostitution.
The judgment of the Babylonian harlot is described in the Book of Revelation by the Apostle John the Theologian (the Apocalypse), Chapter 17:
"The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:16–18)
In the same Chapter 17 of the Apocalypse, it is stated that the ten horns are ten kings, i.e., nations, that will devour the "great harlot." In other words, they will destroy this entire financial system with its spirit of prostitution. There will be no more offshore havens, no more offshore passports, but rather a single world government. Then the ten kings will hand over all their authority to the "Beast":
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast." (Revelation 17:12–13)
And then the Beast will establish a new system: "It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name." (Revelation 13:16–17)
In other words, the Beast will create an electronic concentration camp.
In Revelation by John the Theologian, verses 5–6 of Chapter 13 of the Apocalypse state that the reign of the Antichrist will last 3.5 years (or 42 months).
Then will come the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

 

OPINION

You pretty much nailed my view and thoughts, with minor differences. I see two entities comprising Mystery Babylon: the commercial and religious spiritual sides.

Revelation 17:3 (KJV) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Thus far, the picture forming reinforces my interpretation of who the entities are in the above verse. The woman can be said to be riding the beast, meaning she is temporarily controlling and directing it, and the Bible goes on to say she will eventually be hated and destroyed.

John the Revelator precisely describes this woman to a T in Rev. 17:4-10. It fits no other than the Vatican and the ROMAN Catholic Church. They are known to sit on seven hills; Catholicism is the globe's largest religion, sitting on many waters. No other religion sits on as many waters and nations. They are wealthier than many nations. Centered around Abraham, Pope Francis is having extraordinary success with his ecumenical global movement, reuniting the protestors back under the umbrella of the one true universal church. Under the religious commonality of Abraham, which we share, Francis is having success with Islam, signing letters of peace and cooperation under the guise of Chrislam. The colors purple and scarlet, as well as the symbolic excessive wealth, are a dead giveaway.

For years, I have commented on the Ten Horns (or Ten Kings), and by their descriptions, I have speculated that they could be ten influential people (or oligarchies) controlling the world. We have seen the destruction of mom-and-pop stores, and small businesses deteriorate, with Amazon, eBay, Walmart, and others expanding exponentially. Soon, all our transactions will be electronic, and all transactions will be purchased electronically by smartphone and Internet and monitored.

I am running out of breath here, LOL. I believe something else is occurring right before our eyes. It is no joke, but it is prophetically serious. Few, if any, comment on this significant shift involving America. Trump is serious about Canada and Greenland becoming the 51^st and 52^nd states. In the polls I have seen, both country's populations are overwhelmingly in favor of this proposition. It makes sense economically, socially, strategically, and statistically.

This official proposal (we sent delegates) aligns with global plans, as outlined in the 1973 Club of Rome proposal (see chart below). With a wealthy, influential leader, these ten kings could be shaped into ten global economic trading zones. To have any kingdom, you must have subjects to rule, but they have none; there are ten oligarchies.

Every nation on earth is now interdependent, and no country is any longer self-sufficient. Following God's word as His plan unfolds in this generation is exciting. In hindsight, we will know it was prophetic fulfillment, not before or during.

 

[Marilyn C]

1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said:

OPINION

You pretty much nailed my view and thoughts, with minor differences. I see two entities comprising Mystery Babylon: the commercial and religious spiritual sides.

Revelation 17:3 (KJV) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Thus far, the picture forming reinforces my interpretation of who the entities are in the above verse. The woman can be said to be riding the beast, meaning she is temporarily controlling and directing it, and the Bible goes on to say she will eventually be hated and destroyed.

John the Revelator precisely describes this woman to a T in Rev. 17:4-10. It fits no other than the Vatican and the ROMAN Catholic Church. They are known to sit on seven hills; Catholicism is the globe's largest religion, sitting on many waters. No other religion sits on as many waters and nations. They are wealthier than many nations. Centered around Abraham, Pope Francis is having extraordinary success with his ecumenical global movement, reuniting the protestors back under the umbrella of the one true universal church. Under the religious commonality of Abraham, which we share, Francis is having success with Islam, signing letters of peace and cooperation under the guise of Chrislam. The colors purple and scarlet, as well as the symbolic excessive wealth, are a dead giveaway.

For years, I have commented on the Ten Horns (or Ten Kings), and by their descriptions, I have speculated that they could be ten influential people (or oligarchies) controlling the world. We have seen the destruction of mom-and-pop stores, and small businesses deteriorate, with Amazon, eBay, Walmart, and others expanding exponentially. Soon, all our transactions will be electronic, and all transactions will be purchased electronically by smartphone and Internet and monitored.

I am running out of breath here, LOL. I believe something else is occurring right before our eyes. It is no joke, but it is prophetically serious. Few, if any, comment on this significant shift involving America. Trump is serious about Canada and Greenland becoming the 51^st and 52^nd states. In the polls I have seen, both country's populations are overwhelmingly in favor of this proposition. It makes sense economically, socially, strategically, and statistically.

This official proposal (we sent delegates) aligns with global plans, as outlined in the 1973 Club of Rome proposal (see chart below). With a wealthy, influential leader, these ten kings could be shaped into ten global economic trading zones. To have any kingdom, you must have subjects to rule, but they have none; there are ten oligarchies.

Every nation on earth is now interdependent, and no country is any longer self-sufficient. Following God's word as His plan unfolds in this generation is exciting. In hindsight, we will know it was prophetic fulfillment, not before or during.

 

 

 

 

Hi Dennis,

So....what happens when the 10 kings get rid of the whore, as you say RCC? 

`And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the prostitute, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. ` (Rev. 17: 16)

[Ogner]

8 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

OPINION

You pretty much nailed my view and thoughts, with minor differences. I see two entities comprising Mystery Babylon: the commercial and religious spiritual sides.

Revelation 17:3 (KJV) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Thus far, the picture forming reinforces my interpretation of who the entities are in the above verse. The woman can be said to be riding the beast, meaning she is temporarily controlling and directing it, and the Bible goes on to say she will eventually be hated and destroyed.

John the Revelator precisely describes this woman to a T in Rev. 17:4-10. It fits no other than the Vatican and the ROMAN Catholic Church. They are known to sit on seven hills; Catholicism is the globe's largest religion, sitting on many waters. No other religion sits on as many waters and nations. They are wealthier than many nations. Centered around Abraham, Pope Francis is having extraordinary success with his ecumenical global movement, reuniting the protestors back under the umbrella of the one true universal church. Under the religious commonality of Abraham, which we share, Francis is having success with Islam, signing letters of peace and cooperation under the guise of Chrislam. The colors purple and scarlet, as well as the symbolic excessive wealth, are a dead giveaway.

For years, I have commented on the Ten Horns (or Ten Kings), and by their descriptions, I have speculated that they could be ten influential people (or oligarchies) controlling the world. We have seen the destruction of mom-and-pop stores, and small businesses deteriorate, with Amazon, eBay, Walmart, and others expanding exponentially. Soon, all our transactions will be electronic, and all transactions will be purchased electronically by smartphone and Internet and monitored.

I am running out of breath here, LOL. I believe something else is occurring right before our eyes. It is no joke, but it is prophetically serious. Few, if any, comment on this significant shift involving America. Trump is serious about Canada and Greenland becoming the 51^st and 52^nd states. In the polls I have seen, both country's populations are overwhelmingly in favor of this proposition. It makes sense economically, socially, strategically, and statistically.

This official proposal (we sent delegates) aligns with global plans, as outlined in the 1973 Club of Rome proposal (see chart below). With a wealthy, influential leader, these ten kings could be shaped into ten global economic trading zones. To have any kingdom, you must have subjects to rule, but they have none; there are ten oligarchies.

Every nation on earth is now interdependent, and no country is any longer self-sufficient. Following God's word as His plan unfolds in this generation is exciting. In hindsight, we will know it was prophetic fulfillment, not before or during.

 

I don’t believe the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is the Babylonian harlot. Nowadays, the RCC has neither wealth nor influence, and though it sits in Rome, linked to the "seven hills," that doesn’t make it the "harlot" from Revelation 17. The Babylonian harlot is a symbol of a global system opposing God, encompassing not just religion but commerce, politics, and culture. Revelation 17:3–4 speaks of a "harlot sitting on a beast," and 18:3 says, "all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries, the kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries." That’s more about the global financial system, transnational corporations, and elites than a church.

Your idea about the ten horns as oligarchies or influential people is interesting. You mentioned Amazon, eBay, Walmart, and how they’re wiping out small businesses, paving the way for a digital economy. That really does feel like steps toward the "mark of the beast" from Revelation 13:16–17, where you can’t "buy or sell" without it. You laid out your view well, and I see we align on a lot, though with some differences. I’d say Babylon is all of it: the global financial system, transnational corporations, the entertainment industry, and so on, as I’ve written before. And New York is its capital, destined to burn in the end times (Rev. 18:8–9). These ten horns will "devour" the harlot (Rev. 17:16), meaning the world will split into different centers of influence—economic and political zones. The groundwork’s already there, like BRICS as an alternative. Digital currencies and crypto will dethrone the dollar king. And once there are these centers of influence, they’ll start dividing power and resources, leading to wars, famine, and disease—just as Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:6–7: "you will hear of wars and rumors of wars… nation will rise against nation." In that chaos, the Antichrist will come, promising peace but setting up an electronic concentration camp, where without the "mark" on the right hand or forehead, no one can "buy or sell" (Rev. 13:16–17). There are even films showing this future already, like the South Korean miniseries "Black Knight."

About Trump, Canada, and Greenland as the 51st and 52nd states — an unexpected twist, but interesting! If it happens, yes, it would boost the economic and strategic power of the USA. At the same time, US protectionism strengthens the US economy on one hand but undermines the transnational financial system on the other. Essentially, Trump, in the classic sense, replaces the "invisible hand of the market, supposedly regulating everything," with outright protectionism, leading to a trade war of all against all. Though the capital of the Great Harlot is in New York, Washington is still one of the ten horns of the Beast. The other horns could be the European Union and BRICS countries, which, together with Washington, will ultimately tear the Great Harlot—the modern dollar-based financial system—into pieces.