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9 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I like to give the historical fulfillment of this passage whenever it crops up, not that drawing analogies from it is wrong, but the gist of it is there is a false security that supposes escape from Divine Judgment is possible through political alliances, as though a covenant with death and hell has been made so that neither will result when God overrules human contrivances.

Isaiah 28:15 refers to a moment when the leaders of Jerusalem claimed, “We have made a covenant with death, and with Sheol we are in agreement,” believing they could avoid judgment through political alliances or deceptive strategies. Historically, this is widely understood as a rebuke of Judah’s leaders—likely during the time leading up to the Assyrian threat in the 8th century BC.

Many scholars connect this verse to Judah’s alliance with Egypt, which they hoped would protect them from Assyria. Isaiah saw this as a false security—a “refuge of lies”—because they were trusting in human schemes rather than in God. The “overflowing scourge” likely symbolizes the Assyrian invasion, which Isaiah warned would not spare them despite their supposed deal with death.

It’s a powerful example of prophetic irony: the people thought they were safe, but their confidence was built on deception. The verse also has layers of meaning that some interpret as foreshadowing spiritual truths about judgment and salvation.

 

The pericope of Isaiah 28:15 could be, “They made their bed, now they will have to lie in it,” or God’s cornerstone rejected by Judah’s leaders.

Interpretation of Isaiah 28:15 is all over the place, with both historical and modern-day scholars and theologians. As you mentioned, most commentaries connect it with history, specifically an alliance and broken agreement for protection, where Egypt failed to come to Judah’s aid as promised. However, I hold the minority view, which is connected to Daniel 9:27 and is yet to be fulfilled, a shadow and dual prophecy.

If my view is somewhat accurate, it has particular prophetic relevance for today, given the recent and escalating events since October 7, 2023. Israel has yet to call upon the name of the Lord for deliverance and protection.

Today, Israel is isolated and surrounded by an inner and outer ring of hostile nations (a cup of trembling) hell-bent on her annihilation, to remember Israel no more with a fragile peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan that could collapse on a dime. Israel is not dependent on the Lord but the US for the Iron Dome, technology, military equipment, manufacturing, weapons, assistance, and support. In a sense, we are the historical Egypt.

I suspect the event that transpired yesterday will unleash and lead to unfulfilled prophetic events in the not-too-distant future. There is an intriguing prophecy in Jeremiah 49 about Elam, which, although not yet historically fulfilled, foretells a humanitarian crisis that evokes images of radioactive fallout. Elam today encompasses 1/6 of S.W. Iran, enclosed by a mountain range.

I am surprised that in yesterday’s attack, Iran’s Bushehr nuclear facility was not targeted, and it may be a part of future attacks as promised with bunker-buster weaponry. That area is also the most active and hazardous seismic zone on the planet.

Zechariah 12:3 (KJV) And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Ezekiel 38:15-16 (KJV) And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

All means all, including the US. If we suppose we still exist. Trump, an ardent supporter and friend of Israel, is the most hated and despised president in the US. History. They are doing everything possible to remove him from office via impeachment or a body bag. Nonetheless, God’s plan and will will be realized according to His perfect timing.

Regardless of prophetic exegesis and timing, I think we can agree that strategic alliances, pacts, geopolitical alignments, and events have unfolded on the pages of God’s word, both before and after May 14, 1948. Because of the Abraham Accords, we can even see why Saudi Arabia, UAE, and perhaps Kuwait are bystanders in the Gog-Magog invasion and question the invasion.

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1 hour ago, tatwo said:

Greeting Brothers and Sisters on the forums...! Today...we shall overcome.

Given the somewhat "emergent nature" of this discussion? One might come to the conclusion that there is a certain amount of “spiritual instability” in maintaining a position of “the beast is yet future.”

At this point...entertaining any “suspicion” that the “beast” may be here today...or in the past...would seemingly compel those who love the Truth...to a deeper dive into this reality with the “living Word” as a light to our path way.

Please remember the descriptions that Daniel and John respectively gave of the beast they saw? It is the same beast...seen about 600 years apart...there are changes in the descriptions...all the changes indicate an entity that is growing in size and power along with the scope of that which it controls. Perhaps you might refresh yourself...?

“After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. "While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.” Daniel 7:7-8 NASB

“And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority. I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?" There was given to him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and authority to act for forty-two months was given to him. And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven. It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.” Revelation 13:1-8 NASB

@Dennis1209, and @Vine Abider...if what you are “intimating” which is the possibility of the “beast systems” in play...today...that should inspire...specifically...the people of God to call it out as it is...right?

I am suggesting that the challenge for the “church” and the “world” is...that to a large degree most do not recognize the empire that is and has been emerging for centuries...today. So...they do not know what it is that they are looking at...it is so vastly different than any empire that preceded it...few have any basis for understanding it...right?

The Holy Spirit completely understands this beast...and the “Words” that He gave and gives us clearly illuminates His understanding...all we need is His mind...which we have. Remember that He can and does disturb false doctrines.

It was the glorious Lord of lord and King of kings...Yahshua the eternal...who is recorded as having said..."Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and, 'The time has drawn near.' Therefore do not go after them."

Tatwo...:)

I do not have any special prophetic insight. I examine today’s technology, which has never been seen, and apply it to how the “beast system” can be realized. To get the MOB requires allegiance and worship of the Beast, selling one's soul.

The “beast system” structure is in place and being implemented at present (i.e., Agenda 2030, a cashless society, etc.).

One brief example: How long ago was it that people wondered how the Two Witnesses could be viewed in real time globally, and send presents around the world rapidly, celebrating their demise? Today, that is a no-brainer: FedEx next-day or same-day delivery, billions of smartphones, live streaming, and more.


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I believe strongly that a.i. is indeed the life of the image of the beast.
The phones we all carry around and worship is the platform for the image.
Eventually the image will rise from them, and a.i. in them will know who watches and who does not, and will be able to send a signal out to kill those who don't watch.

 

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