Choice of Denomination

[MrSealedEternal]

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"You've been severed from Christ by trying to save yourself through religious works. You have denied Him and His sacrifice which He performed once for all, and are trying to save yourself by a set of man made laws."

Amazing. 2000 years of the church and all of us who have biblical sacraments and who trust the gospel for our salvation are not saved, but you come along in 2005 and re-invent the church and tell us all we were wrong. Wow. I sit here at my keyboard in awe. Perhaps we should just worship you and forget about Jesus.

If you want to be a New Testament Pharisee, rather than a saint of the Lord Jesus Christ, go ahead and trust in the religious traditions of Judaized Babylonian Kabbalism with a Christian veneer. You should really reconsider and trust God's Word, because that is the only way to salvation.

Mr SE

[st. Worm]

Let's have a dialogue Mr SE. Tell me about your church and why it is so special and apparently the only true church.

Obviously not one of those bad old denominations. Tell me what they believe about children and sin.

[R.C. Anderson]

This is the exact reason there are so many denominational splits in the Church today.

[other one]

For those here who question the Deity of the Holy Spirit why does Peter in Acts 5 equate lying to the Holy Spirit with lying to God?

I meant no personal insult to anyone. If I mentioned terms such as heretic and non-Christian, I am merely echoing the pronouncements of the church that has dealt with this issue for a very long time.

Because right now the Holy Spirit is the only interface that we have with God..... Mess that up and you are hopelessly lost forever......

[st. Worm]

quote:

'This is the exact reason there are so many denominational splits in the Church today."

Clarification? What is the reason?

[MrSealedEternal]

Let's have a dialogue Mr SE. Tell me about your church and why it is so special and apparently the only true church.

Obviously not one of those bad old denominations. Tell me what they believe about children and sin.

I've explained this many times but I'd be happy to do it again.

One of the greatest deceptions in the so-called

[st. Worm]

Yeah, buildings are bad. Bible doesn't talk about buildings so we definitely don't want a church in a building.

Hoo boy.

[other one]

Hoo Boy...... I can sure go along with that part.....

[MrSealedEternal]

Tell me what they believe about children and sin.

There is not a lot of scripture on the topic of children and salvation, but many people point out that King David said he would see his dead child again, which implies that he is in Heaven now. The only other passage I've found is:

Romans 7:9-13 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.

Paul says that there was a time that he was alive apart from the law, before he understood the comandments of God. This seems to imply an age of accountability, where you are only responsible for what information you are capable of understanding. God says that we are to train our Children in the ways of the Lord, so that once they do reach that age, they will have the necessary information. I don't think it's a specific age, since a mentally retarded person would be less accountable than a gifted person, but any parent knows that there is an age where infants don't understand anything, and at some point children reach an age where they do.

Once you reach an age where you fully understand your sin, and it's consequence, then you better have a Savior. If the child's parents have immersed him or her in the Word of God, they are likely to know Jesus Christ, and trust in him.

Mr SE

[MrSealedEternal]

Yeah, buildings are bad. Bible doesn't talk about buildings so we definitely don't want a church in a building.

Hoo boy.

You miss the entire point. The "church" is the people, not the building. Christ's "ekklesia" can meet anywhere they want, but the institutionalized "churches" are false. When you refer to a "church" you are talking about an institution which is not what the Bible is referring to. That's why you've been duped into trusting in Judaized Babylonian Kabbalism with a christian veneer, rather than true Christianity.

Mr SE