Global Warming

[alanraj]

We Americans are being thoroughly indoctrinated by the mass media, the government schools, the propaganda arms of the federal government and the pseudoscience-government complex on the phony issue of global warming.

Now, if all that is not enough, some significant church leaders are attempting to make the global, pagan, socialistic agenda behind the conspiracy a matter of faith.

You probably heard the news

Edited February 18, 2006 by alanraj

[Guest coleenschoen]

We Americans are being thoroughly indoctrinated by the mass media, the government schools, the propaganda arms of the federal government and the pseudoscience-government complex on the phony issue of global warming.

Now, if all that is not enough, some significant church leaders are attempting to make the global, pagan, socialistic agenda behind the conspiracy a matter of faith.

You probably heard the news

[Guest coleenschoen]

we really are experiencing global warming and this country has been in denial of it.the scientist have been measuring the loss in the north pole it got so bad that a portion is getting ready to break away that will put a certain penguin of species out on environment completely,that is where that species live,there are some penguins that have to be in that type of environment because it can make them sick to be out of it,like the polar bears,alaska is feeling the effect of it because the native alaskans are losing their cold environment they keep all their food outside during certain times of year and they are experiencing a change in climate,sometimes we think the governments are making a big stink about certain issues,but this issue is going to affect us in a way that we have not seen before,along with climate change comes instability in our weather,deserts will be created where there were no deserts before ,the whether will be more agressive,like the hurricanes,they said that we are runinng in a cycle with the hurricanes and that we are due for some nasty hurricane seasons,ubt look at the rest of the unatural weather patterns in the reat of the world ,everyone but the united states accepts the fact that we have destroyed our environment but by the time anything is done ,it could take not just years to replace the ozone but centuries.thats why everyone is screaming now before its too late,we lose the ozone completely everything on this planet will fry,literally

[Leonard]

"Global warming"

"The Truth is out there"

"Space Aliens"

"The Boogey man"

"the ozone hole"

"The sky is falling"

"New Ice Age"

"Polarity reversal"

SPACE WILLIES!!!!

[Marnie]

I am keeping my mouth completely shut on this issue!

[branchesofHim]

We Americans are being thoroughly indoctrinated by the mass media, the government schools, the propaganda arms of the federal government and the pseudoscience-government complex on the phony issue of global warming.

Indeed truth is in this post.

The global warming is an effect of sin in the earth. Nothing more and nothing less. The propaganda about it is driven by those who would have the "truth" of God's Word not considered. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God and rightfully so.

Remember Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden? God had told them to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 2

16: And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3

1: Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2: And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4: And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6: And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7: And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

8: And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

9: And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10: And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11: And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

12: And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13: And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14: And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16: Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17: And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

What happened? The devil deceived man into doing the only thing they were told to "not" do. As a result man was subjected to the devil. Remember when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness? The devil offered Him a deal.

Luke 4

5: And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6: And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7: If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

If this wasn't a temptation then Jesus wouldn't have had the opportunity to consider it! When Adam bowed his knee to the devil in disobedience he gave his God-given authority to rule over the earth to the devil.

Genesis 1

26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Man was given authority of all the earth. But when Adam and Eve disobeyed God they gave their God-given authority to the devil. If this was not so, then why would Jesus have been "tempted" by the devil's proposition? And why did Paul call the devil the god of this world?

II. Corinthians 4

4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Additionally consider the writings of Paul regarding our "warfare" listed in Ephesians 6.

12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

"principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, spritual wickedness in high places"

There is some legal authority in the realm of the devil. God is holy and just (legal). But Jesus came to do what (as the second Adam)?

I. John 3

8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Matthew 28

18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 5

27: And hath given him (Jesus speaking of Himself) authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Indeed Jesus got the authority given to man by God back from the devil. And what did Jesus do with it?

Luke 10

19: Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Jesus gave man the power back through the Holy Spirit's indwelling.

Acts 1

8: But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Acts 2

38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

The authority of Jesus in this earth is to be manifested through "all believers" in the earth. It wasn't just for the apostles as some error filled doctrines preach.

(I'll leave that alone for now.)

My point is that Jesus Christ the Lord is the One who should be lifted up, glorifed, magnified, blessed, worshipped, praised, exalted and given preeminence for who He is!

But what does the devil want to do? Consider what Paul told the Corinthian church who was gifted in the manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

II. Corinthians 11

3: But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Simplicity. I like that. I'm simple. So is God. But often "truth" is so simple that it confuses those who are complex minded.

Finally let me end with this passage of scripture that sums up the point that not everything is yet subjected to the power of God manifestly as there is another legal power in earth today which wars with the saints.

Hebrew 2

8: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Why aren't all things put under Him now? Jesus already said that all power was given unto Him in heaven and earth. It's because the Body of Christ is yet to step up and subdue all things through Him as it's supposed to do.

Ephesians 4

13: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

Romans 8

19: For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20: For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21: Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22: For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

The devils protocol in this world is to get man, created in God's image and God's likeness, to focus on any issue without the wisdom of God and absolutely contrary to the understanding of God.

Let's give glory and praise to our God who through Christ Jesus has delivered us from the authority of the powers of darkness! May we all pursue Him for He is life!

Hallelujah!

[Guest Kilad]

Global warming is just scare tactics used in conjuction with bad science. There isnt a reduction in the north pole icecap infact the US Navy knows exactly where the missing Ice is because it is their job to know, It is in the same place it was 50 years ago, It shifts to a different location on a regular basis. Look at all the historical weather data, the earth is on a 50-60 year weather cycle. We are not setting records every day.

The fact is that 3 volcanic eruptions place more pollution into the atmosphere than mankind has in its entire history. God made the earth a heck of alot more resilliant than the non believing scientists wish us all to believe. Another fact is that there is less pollution in the US now than there was 75 years ago, in other words things are getting better not worse.

Have faith in God not bad science.

[Marnie]

Global warming is just scare tactics used in conjuction with bad science. There isnt a reduction in the north pole icecap infact the US Navy knows exactly where the missing Ice is because it is their job to know, It is in the same place it was 50 years ago, It shifts to a different location on a regular basis. Look at all the historical weather data, the earth is on a 50-60 year weather cycle. We are not setting records every day.

The fact is that 3 volcanic eruptions place more pollution into the atmosphere than mankind has in its entire history. God made the earth a heck of alot more resilliant than the non believing scientists wish us all to believe. Another fact is that there is less pollution in the US now than there was 75 years ago, in other words things are getting better not worse.

Have faith in God not bad science.

No way, I will not comment in the obvious intelligence of the above post. I will not comment on the shear evidence of critical thinking that is so apparent in Kilad's post. Nope, you did not hear it from me.

[apothanein kerdos]

Global warming is just scare tactics used in conjuction with bad science. There isnt a reduction in the north pole icecap infact the US Navy knows exactly where the missing Ice is because it is their job to know, It is in the same place it was 50 years ago, It shifts to a different location on a regular basis. Look at all the historical weather data, the earth is on a 50-60 year weather cycle. We are not setting records every day.

The fact is that 3 volcanic eruptions place more pollution into the atmosphere than mankind has in its entire history. God made the earth a heck of alot more resilliant than the non believing scientists wish us all to believe. Another fact is that there is less pollution in the US now than there was 75 years ago, in other words things are getting better not worse.

Have faith in God not bad science.

The only problem with this post is that it is provably wrong. I can point you to 1998, 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2002 and prove to you that they were the hottest summers on record. This winter was the warmest winter on record in the United States....they were broken daily. As for the volcanic eruptions, you aren't taking many things into consideration. For one, when they occur, they generally occur near a giant body of water. Second, an eruption that affects the global ecology is rare. And third, it shoots it up high enough due to pressure that it spread out. Man man pollution is stagnate, occurs where there are no large bodies of water, and it doesn't shoot up high into the atmosphere and spread out; it stays where it is at generally (go live in a big city and look at that thing called "smog"....or is that a myth too?).

Again, look to Mexico City or any major city as proof. The bigger the city, the more cases of asthma people have per capita because the pollution is killing off their lungs. This isn't a myth, it's fact. If it is doing that to humans, imagine what it's doing to the rest of the enviroment.

Christians that deny that pollution is occuring, specifically global warming (which is a natural process that has been enhanced and intensified by human intervention), just baffles me. This is the consequence of materialism, a society that loves material items so much to gain for the individual that it has begun to kill off God's creation....when you argue against people who want to rid us of pollution and global warming, you're arguing for materialism.....does no one realize that, or some of you just ignore it because you'd rather be a good republican than a good Christian? Just as the liberal Christian twists and ignores scripture that speaks out against homosexuals so they can promote their political agenda, the conservative Christians twist and ignore scripture so they can support polluting businesses. To me, it simply does not make any sense.

[DaniJ87]

In my science book, (written by an awesome creationist who is a college professor, chemist, and physicist)

my teacher (writer) stated, and showed graphs that compared temperatures to historical information. Yes, we have hotter temeratures now... but not extremely so, because the graph jagged up, and down, and up and down, and up.... basically, it looks like it is a cycle.... a very LONG cycle, but a cycle. Also, we do not HAVE historical data on exact temperatures, for a long period of history. Before we had thermometers, for example, we could not collect that data... and it also wasn't until we started THINKING about keeping a record... I would bet that we only have data for the last 100-150 years, or so. This is a miniscule slice in the history of our world- so it is fallacious to use it as a standard of what the world's climate always acts like.

The ozone stuff is not so horrible... in fact, all that has happened is that there is a THIN spot in the ozone... not a hole. And it is over the south pole, where nothing lives. Also, we cannot really do ANYTHING about it, because our pollution is so miniscule, compared to what would actually effect it that much. The point about the volcanoes, if correct, really hits the nail on the head for this.

Another point is, that at one time, it was very cold in our world- glaciers covered my state... and a lot of other places... this was not NORMAL weather, if normal is defined by the last 200 years. However, it happened. And it didn't stay freezing. Now it is getting warmer. and it will probably get colder again, too.

the heat changes most likely have absolutely nothing to do with the ozone layer, or any pollution that we could cause.