Robert Schuller

[BlindSeeker]

He is just doing his job . . . gathering tares into bundles . . .

[abbershay]

I watched as he invited a muslum to share his pulpit and called him a great spiritual leader......

[Catsmeow]

That does not surprise me at all...not at all. He's supposed to be a "preacher" not a politician.

[Work in Progress]

Mrs. Mac, I'm sure some would call me "heartless" and "cold", but I believe that one can only be led astray if one allows themselves too. Of course, anyone can be tempted by alluring things, but once into them, if one does not open their Bible and speak to God one on one, but only blindly follows the "feel good" message and the masses, then that is their choice.

The truth is simple and free for the taking. The only thing needed is responsiblity for oneself, not ''following the crowd''. JMO

Before anyone wants to flame me too badly, just know that I came from a church that tried to control families and my parents went along with all of it. It would have been easy for me to continue in that as an adult. As an adult I had to think for myself. It wasn't always easy. Nothing worthwhile ever is.

[RGR]

Well, I believe in positive thinking, BUT NOT in the sense of Schuller and Peale, et. al. Our pastor so poignantly put it this morning in talking about such as this-superstition! We are a church who believes in prosperity, but not in the "God's gonna send you a Rolls-Royce" type prosperity. He was talking about how that some prosperity teachers will tell you that if you don't get what you ask for it was a lack of faith and you need to "visualize" what you want harder and this, he said, was "superstition" pure and simple. He was talking about why God won't answer prayers for us and he quoted the scripture about asking so to be able to spend on sinful things. The positive thinking I entertain is that I know I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me-ALL THINGS! I have trouble with math, but going back to college, I'm eventually going to have to take algebra which causes me dread. But, as a maturing Christian, I've came to realize that the same God who made the math professor, the writers of the math book and the people who set forth said non-real life math formulas (!) made me and I'm no less in His image than they are, so I can do it through Christ!

[Bill]

Mrs. Mac, I'm sure some would call me "heartless" and "cold", but I believe that one can only be led astray if one allows themselves too. Of course, anyone can be tempted by alluring things, but once into them, if one does not open their Bible and speak to God one on one, but only blindly follows the "feel good" message and the masses, then that is their choice.

The truth is simple and free for the taking. The only thing needed is responsiblity for oneself, not ''following the crowd''. JMO

Before anyone wants to flame me too badly, just know that I came from a church that tried to control families and my parents went along with all of it. It would have been easy for me to continue in that as an adult. As an adult I had to think for myself. It wasn't always easy. Nothing worthwhile ever is.

Personally, I don't think you deserve to be "flamed" for that response.

Each will be called to give an account, I believe, and that will be no time to point to someone else and say "they were doing it so I did it too!" They have a choice (Behold, TODAY is the day of salvation...). And it's not like we're living in a country where the gospel cannot be so freely expressed either...the truth is very easily accessible as you said.

Yeah, there is a "church" 10,000 strong out there, and yes, they are being misguided, and yes, I think it's horrible. BUT I think the bigger thing at hand is for each of those 10,000 to start to see the truth FOR THEMSELVES. Just because Schueller (or any other preacher who is missing the mark, for that matter) is off base, doesn't mean they are forced to be likewise.

(Interesting side note: my pastor and his wife toured the Crystal Cathedral while on vacation in Cali last year. When he was there, he said that something in his spirit felt "wierd" about being in that building...something just did not feel right. While it was beautiful, he sensed no presence of God in that place at all.)

[Guest yod]

This guy seems like what JEsus was warning against when He said, "What if your salt loses it's savor?"

It becomes bland and tasteless.

he has 10,000 people who like unsalted crackers, though!

[Mrs Mac]

I agree, we are told to discern the spirits. Obviously your Pastor did, Bill.

He is still considered by many to be a Christian Minister of the gospel, so there will be those that will be captivated by his teachings, simply led astray believing the lie. To an extent people believe what they want to believe but Schuller still has to be held accountable for his teachings. His teachings are hindering the work of God in the lives of seekers and believers.

[WISDOM]

Has ALWAYS been very, VERY "NEW AGE". One of the New Agers pioneers commencing in the early 70's. *Big Thumbs down*

[RGR]

Ya know, maybe it's just the fact that I grew up in church, but something just didn't "meet the eye" reading his book. I consider myself a grower in Christ having came back to Him two years ago after backsliding for about 6 years (and even when I was in church, I wasn't really close to God), so maybe I'm still "churched", but something didn't mesh well with my spirit in his book. Some things I simply passed off as a being able to interpret a separate passage differently, but the more I read, the less impressed I became.

I'm really afraid that Schuller, Copeland, Dollar, Hinn, et. al., are going to wake up one of these days when the church is gone and there's some charismatic leader hawking world peace, especially with Israel, and realize they had it all wrong. It's truly a shame, but I wouldn't be surprised for some of these guys to say that they were left here by the Lord to "testify" to people and lead them in! I mean, if you can't live for Him now knowing the Truth, what makes you think you could do it then?