Those Who Believe Isaiah 53:4 .............

[Franky67]

Those who believe Isaiah 53.4 is referring to only spiritual healing, might be interested to know that Matthew believed that Jesus, indeed took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases.

Reference Isaiah 53.4 NAS

"Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried, yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of god, and aflicted."

In Matthew 8.16,17 Matthew, referring to Isaiah's prophesy above, said..

"And when evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon posessed, and He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were ill, in order that what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, saying ' He, Himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases.' "

It's interesting here that Matthew correcty translates the words griefs, and sorrows to infirmities and diseases.

Edited April 1, 2006 by Franky67

[branchesofHim]

Those who believe Isaiah 53.4 is referring to only spiritual healing, might be interested to know that Matthew believed that Jesus, indeed took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases.

Reference Isaiah 53.4 NAS

"Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried, yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of god, and aflicted."

In Matthew 8.16,17 Matthew, referring to Isaiah's prophesy above, said..

"And when evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon posessed, and He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were ill, in order that what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, saying ' He, Himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases.' "

It's interesting here that Matthew correcty translates the words griefs, and sorrows to infirmities and diseases.

Indeed why would God create man with a spirit, a soul, and a body then leave "one" or the other out in "salvation"? Good point! Blessings unto you in Christ.

Peace.

[Franky67]

Indeed why would God create man with a spirit, a soul, and a body then leave "one" or the other out in "salvation"? Good point! Blessings unto you in Christ.

Thanks, yes, why would a loving God not care about our body as much as the rest of us?

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

So are you prepared to say that Christian should never be stricken ill while still corruptable?

[eric]

We are all promised new bodies........that is...... if we all endure till the end. There will be no wheelchairs in heaven. Butcha gotta make it first. Ya all gotta be like Stephen.

[Rania]

It speaks of Spiritual healing. Same in 1 Peter.

We will get our perfectly healthy bodies later.

[Candi770]

You Got it right there- God is our healer!!!

God is our healer!! My father right leg was shorter than his left and he was healed by the Lord and had to relearn to walk. I've saw other manifestations. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen (When you pray you must believe he is the healer although you may not see it doesn't mean its not there for you. Faith cometh by hearing the word of God. You must believe- If I wasn't healed after prayer- I would never lay it on God- where is my faith? He's a perfect God.

While we are on this earth we are all subject to the conditions, just like a rose on a bush- some times pests, disease, etc can effect us, but we know God is with us and for us. Realizing also where the disease, etc comes from the Devil. Never lay it to God's charge!!

[Franky67]

Grace to you,

So are you prepared to say that Christian should never be stricken ill while still corruptable?

Yes, yes, yes, because I believe Isaiah 53:4, and Matthew 8:16,17,

Jesus said to the synagogue official before he healed his daughter, "do not be afraid, only believe." Mark 5:36

In Romans 11:20 , domestic branches were broken off of the Olive tree because of their unbelief.

Partial belief does not please God, we must believe every word the Master spoke.

Study the activities of Jesus in the Gospels, as He said He was doing the will of His Father, He healed the sick, and delivered the oppressed.

The will of God is for His children to be free of sickness and disease, so the Father sent His son to earth to carry out that will, "He , Himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases", Just as Matthew said, He ought to know, he was there.

[Franky67]

You Got it right there- God is our healer!!!

God is our healer!! My father right leg was shorter than his left and he was healed by the Lord and had to relearn to walk. I've saw other manifestations. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen (When you pray you must believe he is the healer although you may not see it doesn't mean its not there for you. Faith cometh by hearing the word of God. You must believe- If I wasn't healed after prayer- I would never lay it on God- where is my faith? He's a perfect God.

While we are on this earth we are all subject to the conditions, just like a rose on a bush- some times pests, disease, etc can effect us, but we know God is with us and for us. Realizing also where the disease, etc comes from the Devil. Never lay it to God's charge!!

AMEN, Thanks for the testimony, His faithfullness is a shield and a buckler.

[Kabowd]

Grace to you,

So are you prepared to say that Christian should never be stricken ill while still corruptable?

Yes, yes, yes, because I believe Isaiah 53:4, and Matthew 8:16,17,

Jesus said to the synagogue official before he healed his daughter, "do not be afraid, only believe." Mark 5:36

In Romans 11:20 , domestic branches were broken off of the Olive tree because of their unbelief.

Partial belief does not please God, we must believe every word the Master spoke.

Study the activities of Jesus in the Gospels, as He said He was doing the will of His Father, He healed the sick, and delivered the oppressed.

The will of God is for His children to be free of sickness and disease, so the Father sent His son to earth to carry out that will, "He , Himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases", Just as Matthew said, He ought to know, he was there.

This is a message straight from the devil. Up to the same old thing again eh, Franky? All you do is post about physical healing, time and time again...over and over. You have been repeatedly told that your interpretation of scripture is faulty, but you refuse to listen. You disappear for awhile, only to return to post more of your faith-healing nonsense. Please, spare us. It's evil and hurtful, especially to those of us who have lost VERY faithful loved ones to sickness or disease. Believe what you will, but don't go forcing your false doctrine on the rest of us. If I sound harsh, it's because I'm disgusted by these repeated topics that do nothing but wound the already wounded. Please, stop it. You have been debated and proven wrong NUMEROUS times on this board on the VERY SAME issue. Please....PLEASE STOP.