Jews have bought everybody

[Guest nofear]

First: Why did he say such a thing with out listing some facts?

Also, does it make you a racist if you report racism? Maybe he has reasons for his comments. That's all I'd like to know. He was in the government and may have some first hand knowledge.

I think it is really interesting how we that say we love the Lord throw out our judgments on others so quickly.

[RGR]

Arthur, how sad it is that you would lump the entire muslem world in with the few violent, zealot, war mongers. Be careful not to expose too much of your true self. We are not called to hate but to love.

Shiloh, the fact that you try to discredit the truth with misrepresentations doesn't change those truths. I do not coddle terrorists nor condone terrorism, I do attempt to distinguish between terrorists and people trying to protect their family and their beliefs.

I can imagine things too, like if people like you were free to do as you really want to... Oh wait, I don't have to imagine because we can simply look at history and see what your kind of Christianity did when it was allowed. We called it the dark ages, when violent christianity ruled. So, I guess it isn't the intention of your cult to make Christianity the rule over the entire world? Your views aren't very different at all from those muslems you berate, the only real difference in attitude is that western civilization condemns violence in the name of religion (well, at least outwardly).

You're right, God never changes but her plan evolves or do you stone disobedient children and refuse to wear blended fabrics or trim your beard...

Again, the NT is very clear that Jesus ushered in the new era of Christianity.

MH,

We've been down this road before. God IS NOT a "she." Never has been, never will be. Your liberal, new-age goddess worship did not fly here before and it won't this time. When you got called on it before you backed down and tried to make yourself look more mainstream. Now I see you're up to the same old tricks again. You may say you're not worshipping Gaia or some other female deity, but in reality you are very dangerously close on New Age if not right smack dab in the middle of it. I pray that you would come to see the truth of the matter before it's too late.

[Guest shiloh357]

You're right, God never changes but her plan evolves or do you stone disobedient children and refuse to wear blended fabrics or trim your beard...

Again, the NT is very clear that Jesus ushered in the new era of Christianity.

God is not a she. Don't bother trying to tell me anything about Jesus. You are NOT a Christian. A Christian does not refer to God as a she. Maybe your "god" is a she, but the God of the Bible is not. No wonder you think that sex outside of marriage is OK. Your view of the Bible is so twisted and warped becuase your view of God is out of line with the Bible.

[amor]

Islam brings Hitlerism II to life around the entire world. 99.9% of all mass-homicide bombings today are indeed MUSLIM mass-homicide bombings generated in the jaundiced spirit of one, WarLord-General and polygamist, Muhammad of Yathrib. Plumb and plain. The demands? Come back to the 7th-century culture.....join in the denigration of womanhood.....annihilate the Jewish people.....assist us to establish a global Muslim caliphate - or die! All Muslim denial of this reminds us of the poor cop who said: "You were only doing 30? I bet our radar's on the blink again!"

GOD BLESS AMERICA INDEED!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

Except as I've pointed out there are other non-Muslim groups, in particular the Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers who use suicide bombings as a political tactic.

As I've pointed numerous occasions in your over the top bluster and bigotry you are inconsistent. Elsewhere in an anti Liberal rant you praise the values of "Middle-class (Judeo-Christian-Muslim) Canadians". I know you prefer to ignore my highlighting of your inconsistency, but it would be nice if for once you could have the real courage to explain how you can at one point praise Canadian Muslims because they share your moral principles, and yet at another make a pronouncement like the one above

[tah]

MH...How can you possibly discuss God and His teachings with any validity when you do not even know who He is...

You have to know someone before you can do that...

[HGPgal]

Arthur, how sad it is that you would lump the entire muslem world in with the few violent, zealot, war mongers. Be careful not to expose too much of your true self. We are not called to hate but to love.[/quote]

Excellent answer, Most High.

Shiloh, the fact that you try to discredit the truth with misrepresentations doesn't change those truths. I do not coddle terrorists nor condone terrorism, I do attempt to distinguish between terrorists and people trying to protect their family and their beliefs.

I can imagine things too, like if people like you were free to do as you really want to... Oh wait, I don't have to imagine because we can simply look at history and see what your kind of Christianity did when it was allowed. We called it the dark ages, when violent christianity ruled. So, I guess it isn't the intention of your cult to make Christianity the rule over the entire world? Your views aren't very different at all from those muslems you berate, the only real difference in attitude is that western civilization condemns violence in the name of religion (well, at least outwardly).

Yes. But the religion western civilization and particularly the US denounces in the name of "tolerance" is Christianity. "Have your say unless it's Christian" is the current politlcal motis operandi.

You're right, God never changes but her plan evolves or do you stone disobedient children and refuse to wear blended fabrics or trim your beard...

Again, the NT is very clear that Jesus ushered in the new era of Christianity.

God is referred to as 'He' at all times in the Hebrew. (I'm unfamiliar with Greek, but would ASSume the same.) Also, His plan does not evolve. Your humanistic slip is showing... It may 'come to pass' or, His kingdom 'is at hand' or other such sayings, but it does not evolve as no additional genetic information has been added to His plan.

[nebula]

AP and Shiloh, oh look over there... there's something to distract peoples attention from the issue.

No one is trying to distract from the issue.

When you make comments like that, though, you are going to get challenged!

. . . I believe God is neither man nor female and both, I believe God is all things and may therefore call God he or she without prejudice. As for biblical standing, I do not believe the bible is the inerrant word of God but rather MANS attempt to consolidate the Lords wisdom and the teachings of Jesus into one book. I hold the bible as informative as the other writings which the men of the Roman Catholic Church decided not to include in the cannon. The writing style simply mirrors the attitude of a patriarchal society 2000 years ago. We no longer believe the world is flat nor that God is an old man with a long grey beard. End of story.

Oh-oh.

You sound like someone who's been hurt by men. That kind of bitterness expressed towards masculinity and men tends to be the end result of abuse.

[apothanein kerdos]

MH,

We've been down this road before. God IS NOT a "she." Never has been, never will be. Your liberal, new-age goddess worship did not fly here before and it won't this time. When you got called on it before you backed down and tried to make yourself look more mainstream. Now I see you're up to the same old tricks again. You may say you're not worshipping Gaia or some other female deity, but in reality you are very dangerously close on New Age if not right smack dab in the middle of it. I pray that you would come to see the truth of the matter before it's too late.

Ronald, didn't fly here before?

1) You make it sound as if I have in the past sought your (or anyone else's) approval for my beliefs, I did not nor do I now.

2) I have never backed down from my beliefs nor tried to make myself appear "more mainstream". Please provide the link to your fantasy or retract your lie and apologize for it. I won't be holding my breath for either.

3) I have seen the truth of the matter.

AP and Shiloh, oh look over there... there's something to distract peoples attention from the issue.

To those of you questioning my reference to God as femanine. I'll make this quick so we can get back to the discussion at hand. I believe God is neither man nor female and both, I believe God is all things and may therefore call God he or she without prejudice. As for biblical standing, I do not believe the bible is the inerrant word of God but rather MANS attempt to consolidate the Lords wisdom and the teachings of Jesus into one book. I hold the bible as informative as the other writings which the men of the Roman Catholic Church decided not to include in the cannon. The writing style simply mirrors the attitude of a patriarchal society 2000 years ago. We no longer believe the world is flat nor that God is an old man with a long grey beard. End of story.

How absurd. The Bible is actually feminist in nature and goes against the patriarchal society of the time. This proves, to me, that you had people doing the thinking for you and refused to think for yourself. What do you expect out of a die hard liberal? Neither side (conservative or liberal) really thinks for themselves. You are simply proving this rule.

If you actually look through the Bible we can see that your idea and interpretation is cut to shreds. We don't even have to go very far before it is. The book of Esther is all about how one woman was more powerful than a king and held the entire fate of a nation in her hands. Going back to Rahab, she is a prostitute and a female...something very low on the totem pole of the times...yet she is held as righteous. Give me a break, you probably had a professor or read an article that gave you a good record to keep playing when this issue came up, but I know for a fact you've never actually studied it.

[Guest shiloh357]

The writing style simply mirrors the attitude of a patriarchal society 2000 years ago.

Yet, we can see that the Bible places the blame of sin upon Adam not Eve. Furthermore, when Jesus was resurrected, the first missionary was a woman, Mary of Magdeline. Had the Bible been written by men, especially men of the biblical era, the Bible would be much more patriarchial, and it would have been a woman not a man that would have been the first witness of the resurrection, and woman not man blamed for the sin of the world.

We can study about many great women of the Bible who were heroes in their own right, such as Rahab, Deborah, Ruth, Hannah, Esther, Mary the mother of Jesus and others. The book of Proverbs instructs us to heed and obey the wisdom of our mothers. It even devotes an entire chapter to women called "The woman of valor."

I believe God is all things and may therefore call God he or she without prejudice.

The problem is that God does not present Himself as "all things." Is it fair to represent God as both male and female, if He does not offer Himself that way?

I do not believe the bible is the inerrant word of God but rather MANS attempt to consolidate the Lords wisdom and the teachings of Jesus into one book.

Yet, you quote Jesus. If the Bible is not inerrant, then how can you, with any confidence quote the words of Jesus?? If the Bible is in error, in one place how can you with any assurance believe that it accurately portrays Jesus?? To quote Jesus as an authority ( as you did earlier) and then erode that authority by claiming that your source material for the words of Jesus is subject to human foilables is completely irrational.

You seem to "use" the Bible when it suits you and then discredit its authority when you are forced to confront your error in the light of its words. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot use the Bible as an authority to discredit our assertions, and then discredit the Bible as an authority when defending your assertions.