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Matt 1:12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zoroabel;

Strong's

begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Babylon - h897 - confusion

Jechonias - h2423 - whom Jehovah establishes

Salathiel - h4528 - I have asked God

Zorobabel - h2216 - born at Babel, i.e. Babylon

Read with the meanings;

1:12 And after they were brought to confusion (Babylon), whom Jehovah establishes (Jechonias) caused I have asked God (Salathiel) to arise; and I have asked God (Salathiel) caused born at Babel (Zorobabel) to arise;

My thoughts;

God has brought this generation face to face with confusion of religious doctrines. Confusion, VARIENCE, is abomination to God. This should CAUSE the present generation of organized religion to PRAY, to mentally DISCUSS the scriptures with the Holy Spirit. The effect of true prayer is CONVERSION to authentic Christianity, while AT a place of confusion.

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Greetings Saints in Jesus Christs Love and Peace,

My thoughts;

Those who have received permanant spiritual healing from the Lord have their SENSES EXERCISED to perceive spiritual things. It is they who cause the people whom God has established to RISE UP. Today, I can see them who are very serious about being obedient to God beginning to RISE UP in the midst of all the confusion (Babylon) about Christian doctrine in this age.

Amen to that! :il: :t2:

Will they beget anyone is the question?

I see many believers who know the harvest is nigh. The call is on Wake Up! Saints. The hour is getting late. Will this generation miss the call?

G-d will have His people. The people who walk in the Spirit of Elijah and with the boldness of John!

They will go and make straight the pathways to Righteousness! The Lord is moving in our very day. Will you all scarcely believe it even though you have been told?

With the very fact that the Lord has wrought this, leads me to then believe it will bear fruit.

Oh' Saints will you arise and present a precious offering? More precious than a years pay. Ask to be cleansed. Let the Lord search out your heart. Let Him circumcise your sins. Then approach the alter and make a sacrifice. One that is pleasing . One that fills His nostrils with sweet scent. One that fills His heart with joy. Then he will act. He will say ,"Gabriel, look can it be? My bride! Oh' I've waited for you. Bless My very heart. There you are. Look at you a people after my own heart. A people whom Love the Lord with all their heart. A pleasant sacrifice. A people who place the Lord first, My Will, My Council, My Way for My Glory! Willing of their own accord to Worship Me! Only Me Cleanly and without reservation to their selfs!"

Seek to be a worthy adopted son of G-d thru Christ Jesus people. How does a pleasing son act? He is obedient. He is pleasing to his Father. He seeks his Fathers Will. He acts not for his own sake. He squanders not his inheritence. He takes not his inheritence and uses it not for his selfish reasons. He acts only for his Fathers Glory! When this adopted son is corrected he responds not in pride. But is humble and acts to correct his fault by seeking forgiveness. For the Father Loves him. For His Glorys sake and His name. Its difficult to live in your Fathers house and not obey. It is heartwarming for a Father to see a son obey. Its His hearts desire. :il: :o

Then a generation will be begot!

Much Love in Christ Jesus! :D :il:

Peace :il: Amen!


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Matt 1:13 And Zrobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;

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begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Zorobabel - h2216 - born at Babel, i.e. Babylon

Abiud - h10 - my father is majesty

Eliakim - h1662 - raising up by God

Azor - h107 - helper

Read with the meanings;

1:13 And Born at Babel (Zorobabel) caused my father is majesty (Aiud) to arise; and my father is majesty (Abiud) caused raised up by God (Eliakim) to arise; and raised up by God (Eliakim) caused helper (Azor) to arise;

My thoughts;

It is certainly obvious that a generation "born again" in the midst of CONFUSION at it's peak could not have been saved by works. Every time that God has delivered the people in the past, there was no doubt that God had done it himself. It will be the same this time. There will be no doubt as to who truly BELIEVES that Father God is MAJESTY, and that Yeshua Christ is KING. It will be obvious that those people could not have learned the AUTHENTIC doctrine of Yeshua Christ on their own, while AT THE TABLE of confusion.

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Matt 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; And Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;

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begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Azor - h107 - helper

Sadoc - h4524 - just

Achim - h885 - the Lord will establish

Eliud - h1164 - God his praise

With the meanings;

1:14 And helper (Azor) caused just (Sadoc) to arise; and just (Sadoc) caused the Lord will establish (Achim) to arise; and the Lord will establish (Achim) caused God his praise (Eliud) to arise;

My thoughts;

It is those who are determined to overcome confusion who actually HELP to further the Kingdom of Heaven that Yeshua calls his Church. Godly righteous HELP causes the people within that body to BECOME JUST according as Yeshua MAKES THEM RIGHTEOUS. Each member of Yeshua's Church MUST have the SAME ANOINTING OF RIGHTEOUSNESS that is upon Yeshua himself. (The extra oil that the virgins carry for their lamps.) Those the Lord ESTABLISHES. Among THOSE God comes to live among.

Anne


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Matt 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazer; ad Eleazer begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;

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begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Eliud - h1664 - God his praise

Eleazer - h1648 - help of God

Matthan - h3157 - gift

Jacob - h2384 - heel-catcher, supplanter

With the meanings;

1:15 And God his praise (Eliud) caused help of God (Eleazer) to arise; and help of God (Eleazer) caused gift (Matthan) to arise; and gift (Matthan) caused heel- catcher, supplanter (Jacob) to arise;

My thoughts;

Authentic praising of God has the effect of telling others "My Daddy made that!" and "Because my Daddy said so!" To me the remark, "I praise you Lord" is EMPTY praise. It does not say what I praise him for having done. We praise EACH OTHER better than that.

Those who give AUTHENTIC praise to God teach others to HELP to praise him. When the whole body of CHRIST has begun to give Authentic praise to God, IN UNISON, GOD'S GIFT to us, Yeshua Christ, can arise and come back among the people. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. When WE actually DO draw near to God, instead of claiming that we already have, THEN Yeshua will draw near to us.

Anne


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Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whm was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

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begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Jacob - h2384 - heel-catcher, supplanter

Joseph - h2501 - let him add

Mary - h3137 - their rebellion

Jesus - h2424 - Jehovah is salvation, (Jehovah saved)

Christ - g5547 - anointed, consecrated to office of service through contact

With the meanings;

1:16 And supplanter (Jacob) caused let him add (Joseph) to arise, the husband of their rebellion (Mary), of whom was born Jehoah saved (Jesus), who is called anointed, consecrated to office of service through contact (Christ).

My thoughts;

When AUTHENTIC Christianity among ONE church congregation has supplanted the varience of doctrines found in organized religion, more and more people will be added to THAT ONE CONGREGATION. THAT ONE AUTHENTIC CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION is the husband of all those who REBEL against traditional organized religion and her VARIENCE of doctrines. Rebellion against organized religion as we know it, is the MOTHER OF THE JEHOVAH SAVED. And the Jehovah saved are ALL anointed, ALL cosecrated to office of serv ice of God through contact.

Anne


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Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

I will be curious to see.

In His Love,

Suzanne

When I realized that not many qeregoing to post about verses 1 - 16, I tried to hurry.

Maybe now more people will participate.

I'm curious to see what others have learned myself.


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God is obviously very concerned with geneologies, this info has been most carefully preserved throughout the centuries for it to be in our hands today. I believe there was divine protection of these names in this lineage, despite so much destruction and exile of the Jews.

This great care taken in preserving each name reflects the same great care He will give to each name written in the Book of Life.

The precious seed of Christ was carried down through the centuries in an incredible hodgepodge of characters. From saints to harlots to kings to carpenters.......some good, some evil.

As a Jew or Israelite, His lineage was certainly not pure, but tainted by interbreeding with other nations. Ruth was a Moabitess, Rahab was from Jericho, a Canaanitess, who was Rehoboam's mother?

I think a study of the meanings of the names in Christ's lineage would be quite interesting.

My two cents so far. I'm interested to watch this thread unfold.

It has been said that Queen Elizabeth could trace her geneology back as far as Yeshua's. I have not heard whether he was an uncle or cousin though :P

Also the descendants everywhere need to be able knw teir linage. As a matter of fact, Caucasions in North America today are descendants of one of the tribes of Israel. But I learned that some years ago, and do not remember which tribe.

Are all His ancestors in the Book of Life? I very seriously doubt it. People have been the same down through the ages.

Can you put me onto some leads about this; Jews take their race from the mother's side.


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Hello all :)

10Hezekiah begot Manasseh, Manasseh begot Amon, and Amon begot Josiah. 11Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon.

12And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel. 13Zerubbabel begot Abiud, Abiud begot Eliakim, and Eliakim begot Azor. 14Azor begot Zadok, Zadok begot Achim, and Achim begot Eliud. 15Eliud begot Eleazar, Eleazar begot Matthan, and Matthan begot Jacob. 16And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

Notice how all the preceding generations where begot But Jesus was not begot. Thats because joseph was not the father of Jesus.

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly.

then he would have seen Mary


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Verse 11, Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon.

This is the lineage of Joseph. If Joseph had been Jesus' father, then Jesus would not be allowed to reign on David's throne.

Jer 22:24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;

Jer 22:25 And I will give thee into the hand of them that seek thy life, and into the hand of them whose face thou fearest, even into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of the Chaldeans.

Jer 22:26 And I will cast thee out, and thy mother that bore thee, into another country, where ye were not born; and there shall ye die.

Jer 22:27 But to the land whereunto they desire to return, thither shall they not return.

Jer 22:28 Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not?

Jer 22:29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.

Jer 22:30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.

But wasn't Mary descended from David also?

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