do you eat pork?

[Ovedya]

Sorry, you are simply wrong. Do some checking about the health benefits of male circumcision. There is no reason for me to speak on it, as most of the recent scientific studies have shown what I have said to be accurate. It is certainly debated and something which is left up to the parents, but there are documented benefits to the practice.

Check out the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics. They list both the problems AND benefits of male circumcision.

But for the others,

Americans are out of shape, fat and more unhealthy than most of the rest of the industrialized world. We eat too much fat, too much meat, too much fast food, and too much fried food and yes far far too much bacon, and we simply eat too much quantity. It is not brain surgery, travel abroad, and then look around, you can tell the American tourists, by their waist size. Sure all food is spiritually clean, but that does not mean I am going to eat garbage, which is also spiritually clean. I do think the bible calls us to keep our bodies healthy along with our minds.

If avoiding bacon helps us get in better shape, why is that a bad thing?

yes, well, according to your sources i am sure i am wrong. i put no stock in any established group, especially the AMA(american murder association) and the FDA(federal death administraion) and the EPA(environmental poisoning agency), but i know of no mainstream groups that are any better.

the body is like any machine - garbage in, garbage out. i am shocked no one has thrown out the old standby for smokers and drinkers -

1 Corinthians 6:19

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

good enough reason all by itself not to KNOWINGLY shovel a bunch of crap into the body. well, good enough for me any way.

then there is this one:

Romans 12:1

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

but again, thats got to be too much to ask, really. there is no gain in it. it wont save us, so why bother?

please dont take all of this personal. your posts are quite reasonable compared to most others and i do appreciate what you are saying.

Man...I'll give you one thing: You sure have your rhetoric down to a science. The American Murder Association? The Federal Death Agency?

Next thing you'll be telling us that pharmacists are necromancers, and that hospitals are death camps.

[Smalcald]

Well circumcision is an emotional issue, I am not going to be down on somebody because they oppose it, and there are arguments on both sides.

Peace to you child, I think you seem somehow unhappy to me? But maybe that is just the Internet.

[thechild]

i was sent here to deliver the plan of salvation and was told it was not welcome here so it was removed.

you wont think its funny when you find out the lord sent me. it will be sad indeed.

[thechild]

Sorry, you are simply wrong. Do some checking about the health benefits of male circumcision. There is no reason for me to speak on it, as most of the recent scientific studies have shown what I have said to be accurate. It is certainly debated and something which is left up to the parents, but there are documented benefits to the practice.

Check out the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics. They list both the problems AND benefits of male circumcision.

But for the others,

Americans are out of shape, fat and more unhealthy than most of the rest of the industrialized world. We eat too much fat, too much meat, too much fast food, and too much fried food and yes far far too much bacon, and we simply eat too much quantity. It is not brain surgery, travel abroad, and then look around, you can tell the American tourists, by their waist size. Sure all food is spiritually clean, but that does not mean I am going to eat garbage, which is also spiritually clean. I do think the bible calls us to keep our bodies healthy along with our minds.

If avoiding bacon helps us get in better shape, why is that a bad thing?

yes, well, according to your sources i am sure i am wrong. i put no stock in any established group, especially the AMA(american murder association) and the FDA(federal death administraion) and the EPA(environmental poisoning agency), but i know of no mainstream groups that are any better.

the body is like any machine - garbage in, garbage out. i am shocked no one has thrown out the old standby for smokers and drinkers -

1 Corinthians 6:19

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

good enough reason all by itself not to KNOWINGLY shovel a bunch of crap into the body. well, good enough for me any way.

then there is this one:

Romans 12:1

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

but again, thats got to be too much to ask, really. there is no gain in it. it wont save us, so why bother?

please dont take all of this personal. your posts are quite reasonable compared to most others and i do appreciate what you are saying.

Man...I'll give you one thing: You sure have your rhetoric down to a science. The American Murder Association? The Federal Death Agency?

Next thing you'll be telling us that pharmacists are necromancers, and that hospitals are death camps.

as a matter of fact, yes. pharmacists are sorcerers, though, not necromancers. look it up:

Revelation 22:15

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

its federal death administration, not agency.

and if you give one whit about anyone in a hospital, you better never leave their side till they go out the door. the number one cause of death in america is medical mistakes. thats how my mother died.

Edited June 14, 2006 by thechild

[thechild]

Well circumcision is an emotional issue, I am not going to be down on somebody because they oppose it, and there are arguments on both sides.

Peace to you child, I think you seem somehow unhappy to me? But maybe that is just the Internet.

thanks, but its nothing. i have dealt with more hostile environments. try talking to orthodox jews!!!! they want NOTHING to do with Jesus. their law prohibits them worshipping a man and they wont give you two hoots in a holler if they think you give him any credence whatsoever. there is a very strong anti-proselytizng movement in judaism today.

[angels4u]

i was sent here to deliver the plan of salvation and was told it was not welcome here so it was removed. what are you going to do, judge that i am not saved? lord it over me with your piousness and condemnation? you have your answer. i have given it many times. but just in case you missed it -

you are wrong.

there, i dont know how much more clear and understandable and lovingly i can put it. and if you dont believe that then that is perfectly fine with me. it is not my life to live, it is all yours. enjoy it.

and remember - you asked

Sorry I don't get this, the Lord send you to deliver the plan of Salvation?

I never seen you explain the plan?

[thechild]

i was sent here to deliver the plan of salvation and was told it was not welcome here so it was removed. what are you going to do, judge that i am not saved? lord it over me with your piousness and condemnation? you have your answer. i have given it many times. but just in case you missed it -

you are wrong.

there, i dont know how much more clear and understandable and lovingly i can put it. and if you dont believe that then that is perfectly fine with me. it is not my life to live, it is all yours. enjoy it.

and remember - you asked

Sorry I don't get this, the Lord send you to deliver the plan of Salvation?

I never seen you explain the plan?

thats exactly right. i posted it first thing when i joined this board and it was deleted immediately. thats all you get, i guess. a moderator sent me an email and told me to never post it again. i am supposing that as long as i want to post here i better not post it again. he sent me three emails saying the same thing - never post it again.

Edited June 14, 2006 by thechild

[angels4u]

thats exactly right. i posted it first thing when i joined this board and it was taken down immediately. thats all you get.

[RGR]

i was sent here to deliver the plan of salvation and was told it was not welcome here so it was removed. what are you going to do, judge that i am not saved? lord it over me with your piousness and condemnation? you have your answer. i have given it many times. but just in case you missed it -

you are wrong.

there, i dont know how much more clear and understandable and lovingly i can put it. and if you dont believe that then that is perfectly fine with me. it is not my life to live, it is all yours. enjoy it.

and remember - you asked

Sorry I don't get this, the Lord send you to deliver the plan of Salvation?

I never seen you explain the plan?

thats exactly right. i posted it first thing when i joined this board and it was deleted immediately. thats all you get, i guess. a moderator sent me an email and told me to never post it again. i am supposing that as long as i want to post here i better not post it again. he sent me three emails saying the same thing - never post it again.

Your "plan" is nothing more than the ramblings of someone attempting to mix paganism and Christianity along with a works-based salvation. Your "plan" is to be avoided!

[thechild]

thats exactly right. i posted it first thing when i joined this board and it was taken down immediately. thats all you get.

Do I sense opposition ?

Why are you so defensive?

All I'm asking for is for you to tell me how I can get to heaven