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Hi everyone!

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about the 7 day creation thing. Personally I don't really believe the universe was created in seven literal days. The creation seems to be written in a poetic style instead of a literal narrative style like the gospels. Not really important to salvation but a fun topic to discuss anyhow. So, what's everyone else think?

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Hey jojo

glad to see you're posting, six days of creation and one day of rest. :P


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Hi everyone!

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about the 7 day creation thing. Personally I don't really believe the universe was created in seven literal days. The creation seems to be written in a poetic style instead of a literal narrative style like the gospels. Not really important to salvation but a fun topic to discuss anyhow. So, what's everyone else think?

Hi jojo,

Welcome.

There are some here that do not hold to a literal seven day creation. I am not in that camp.

six days of creation and one day of rest
7 24 hr day creation. God is an awesome God.

There are many threads you can search and see what has been posted already if you wish.

God bless,

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Hi everyone!

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about the 7 day creation thing. Personally I don't really believe the universe was created in seven literal days. The creation seems to be written in a poetic style instead of a literal narrative style like the gospels. Not really important to salvation but a fun topic to discuss anyhow. So, what's everyone else think?

Howdy, JoJo, and welcome to Worthy! :P Let's take a look at Genesis 1:1,2:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. (Holman Christian Standard)

We see that God created the heavens and the earth; no timetable is given there, just that He created it. I think we will agree that if God created something, it's going to be good. As a matter of fact, we see a bit down from there that it says "And God saw that it was good." But when we look at verse 2, we see the earth is "formless and empty" with "darkness cover[ing] the surface of the watery depths." That doesn't sound like perfection, does it? So what happened?

I think at some point, something happened between Genesis 1:1 and 2. Given that Satan was already around to tempt Adam and Eve, I would say that this may have been what Jesus was referring to:

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (KJV)

So, in my mind, the Earth was already here and all that God did was simply restore it to it's original form.

Some subscribe to the theory that there was a pre-Adamic society on Earth, thereby explaining the age of the Earth versus the 6000 years of Biblical history. Is it possible? I would think so. Look at what God told Noah:

Genesis 9: 8 Then God told Noah and his sons, 9 "I am making a covenant with you and your descendants, 10 and with the animals you brought with you � all these birds and livestock and wild animals. 11 I solemnly promise never to send another flood to kill all living creatures and destroy the earth." 12 And God said, "I am giving you a sign as evidence of my eternal covenant with you and all living creatures. 13 I have placed my rainbow in the clouds. It is the sign of my permanent promise to you and to all the earth. 14 When I send clouds over the earth, the rainbow will be seen in the clouds, 15 and I will remember my covenant with you and with everything that lives. Never again will there be a flood that will destroy all life. (NLT)

Perhaps at some point in eons past, God judged the Earth already with a flood? Could that explain v.2 of Genesis, ch.1?


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I see what you mean. Jesus also told the Pharisees he would tear this temple down and restore it in 3 days. They had no way of knowing he was talking about his body and that he would be raised from the dead. I have often wondered what exactly is meant by the seven day creation myself.


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Hi everyone!

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about the 7 day creation thing. Personally I don't really believe the universe was created in seven literal days. The creation seems to be written in a poetic style instead of a literal narrative style like the gospels. Not really important to salvation but a fun topic to discuss anyhow. So, what's everyone else think?

Hi jojo,

Welcome.

There are some here that do not hold to a literal seven day creation. I am not in that camp.

six days of creation and one day of rest
7 24 hr day creation. God is an awesome God.

There are many threads you can search and see what has been posted already if you wish.

God bless,

LT

Larry's right about that, there are many threads you could search and I share LT's viewpoint on the length of the days in the Genesis account as being 7x24hrs.

I am also of the mind that God created with the appearance of age and accounts for the universe appearing older as so many perceive it to be. Probably from the viewpoint of a God who is greater than the dimension of time, this is seen with much more insight than we, from our limited perspectives have.

I copied and deleted the following, then repasted my thoughts, so realize that I was reluctant to share this BECAUSE it is just a THEORY I have been pondering:

I would also like to add that I have had some theoretical thoughts on the 6 days of creation and 7th day of rest as relates to the roughly 6,000 year biblical genealogical time line and Millennial Reign if Christ. Mind everyone, this is just a theory I have pondered...please, I am not saying I know this for sure, so don't throw any stones at me for pondering it, please :whistling: . My theory is that perhaps there is a prophetic aspect to the 7 day week in correspondence to the verses as follows:

2Pe 3:1 This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you in which I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder,

2Pe 3:2 that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles.

2Pe 3:3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,

2Pe 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation."

2Pe 3:5 For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,

2Pe 3:6 through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water.

2Pe 3:7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

2Pe 3:8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

2Pe 3:11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,

2Pe 3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!

2Pe 3:13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night.

Revelation 20 also has much to say about the thousand years to come:

Rev 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

Rev 20:3 and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison,

Rev 20:8 and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.

Rev 20:9 And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Then note how Revalation 21 begins:

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.

I found it interesting that the Arutz 7 Israeli newsletter we receive in our email is dated 22 Av 5766 while on the Gregorian calender it is August 16th, 2006 and that prophecies were fulfilled according to the lunar calender cycle. Now let me mention here that I am not sure about the integrity of the dates given in the lunar calendar as I have never researched that, and do not even know if I could come to a conclusive understanding if I did.

I would also like to add here that the scriptures say that noone knows the day or the hour, so we are to be alert and ready:

Mat 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.

So I hope noone takes these ponderings of mine as a stance that I am claiming I do. As a theory, I believe it remains to be seen/proven.

God Bless,

Heather


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Hi everyone!

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about the 7 day creation thing. Personally I don't really believe the universe was created in seven literal days. The creation seems to be written in a poetic style instead of a literal narrative style like the gospels. Not really important to salvation but a fun topic to discuss anyhow. So, what's everyone else think?

Hi jojo :whistling: If God says he created in 7 days, then He did. And with one day of rest. He is an awesome powerful God that is limitless in His desire. I think He just decided that He was going to create and did just that. I don't question the Word of God. I have faith that what I read is the truth. It gives me peace and joy knowing His Spirit was the inspiration. :21:


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I see what you mean. Jesus also told the Pharisees he would tear this temple down and restore it in 3 days. They had no way of knowing he was talking about his body and that he would be raised from the dead. I have often wondered what exactly is meant by the seven day creation myself.

I know you know this but our bodies are temples and I agree that how could the Pharisees know what he meant. Was it a literal temple made of stone? And how could he possibly restore a temple of stone in three days. I think if he tried to explain to them that he was about to suffer and die on the cross and that he would be buried in the tomb but three days later he would be rising from the dead they wouldn't have understood anyway. But Jesus also spoke in parables and told stories that have significance for us even to this day as to how we should act as Christians.

And as I explained to jojo, If God said He created in seven days then I believe it. If you think about it He is all powerful. He is God. He is our Creator, the highest power there is. It is mind bogling if you really think about His work and creating us also in His image. How grateful to have been born so that I can make the choice to give Him my life and surrender to His will.

I am also fascinated with the return of the Lord. And there is a passage that says to Him a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years can be like a day. These are the mysteries that one day we will come to know and understand. I get too confused if I get to literal with the bible but I know in my heart and soul it to be true because of the gift of faith and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit that will sometimes bestow upon me. Be joyful :whistling:

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I see what you mean. Jesus also told the Pharisees he would tear this temple down and restore it in 3 days. They had no way of knowing he was talking about his body and that he would be raised from the dead. I have often wondered what exactly is meant by the seven day creation myself.

I know you know this but our bodies are temples and I agree that how could the Pharisees know what he meant. Was it a literal temple made of stone? And how could he possibly restore a temple of stone in three days. I think if he tried to explain to them that he was about to suffer and die on the cross and that he would be buried in the tomb but three days later he would be rising from the dead they wouldn't have understood anyway. But Jesus also spoke in parables and told stories that have significance for us even to this day as to how we should act as Christians.

And as I explained to jojo, If God said He created in seven days then I believe it. If you think about it He is all powerful. He is God. He is our Creator, the highest power there is. It is mind bogling if you really think about His work and creating us also in His image. How grateful to have been born so that I can make the choice to give Him my life and surrender to His will.

I am also fascinated with the return of the Lord. And there is a passage that says to Him a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years can be like a day. These are the mysteries that one day we will come to know and understand. I get too confused if I get to literal with the bible but I know in my heart and soul it to be true because of the gift of faith and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit that will sometimes bestow upon me. Be joyful :whistling:

I agree that God can create heavens and earth even just a blink of an eye. The main point in here is does Moises mean "day" mentioned in accounts of creation is like what we are thingking 1 day = 24 hours???? We must based our understanding to what it is written....

According to Gen 1:15-19

Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

It clearly mentioned that 24 hours just started on the fourth day when God created the Moon and the Sun


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I see what you mean. Jesus also told the Pharisees he would tear this temple down and restore it in 3 days. They had no way of knowing he was talking about his body and that he would be raised from the dead. I have often wondered what exactly is meant by the seven day creation myself.

I know you know this but our bodies are temples and I agree that how could the Pharisees know what he meant. Was it a literal temple made of stone? And how could he possibly restore a temple of stone in three days. I think if he tried to explain to them that he was about to suffer and die on the cross and that he would be buried in the tomb but three days later he would be rising from the dead they wouldn't have understood anyway. But Jesus also spoke in parables and told stories that have significance for us even to this day as to how we should act as Christians.

And as I explained to jojo, If God said He created in seven days then I believe it. If you think about it He is all powerful. He is God. He is our Creator, the highest power there is. It is mind bogling if you really think about His work and creating us also in His image. How grateful to have been born so that I can make the choice to give Him my life and surrender to His will.

I am also fascinated with the return of the Lord. And there is a passage that says to Him a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years can be like a day. These are the mysteries that one day we will come to know and understand. I get too confused if I get to literal with the bible but I know in my heart and soul it to be true because of the gift of faith and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit that will sometimes bestow upon me. Be joyful :whistling:

I agree that God can create heavens and earth even just a blink of an eye. The main point in here is does Moises mean "day" mentioned in accounts of creation is like what we are thingking 1 day = 24 hours???? We must based our understanding to what it is written....

According to Gen 1:15-19

Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

It clearly mentioned that 24 hours just started on the fourth day when God created the Moon and the Sun

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