Father, why hast thou forsaken me?

[Candi770]

manji,

Yes through Jesus' selfless act, since he carried out this act to completion, we can be forgiven of our sins, when we ask forgiveness and not feel a forever seperation, when we are His Child and we confess our sins.

Hell will actually be seperation from Father God.

[nebula]

You all are missing the obvious.

Psalm 22

To the Chief Musician. Set to 'The Deer of the Dawn.' A Psalm of David.

1 My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? Why are You so far from helping Me, And from the words of My groaning?

2 O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear; And in the night season, and am not silent. 3 But You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in You; They trusted, and You delivered them.

Jesus was directly quoting from the Psalms.

You could say that He was praying the Psalm, only using the first part, knowing the Father would "hear" the whole Psalm (recall that it's very difficult to speak when crucified).

You could also say He was proclaiming the fulfillment of the prophecy given in the Psalm.

7 All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 "He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!"

13 They gape at Me with their mouths, Like a raging and roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, And all My bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It has melted within Me.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And My tongue clings to My jaws; You have brought Me to the dust of death.

16 For dogs have surrounded Me; The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me. They pierced My hands and My feet;

17 I can count all My bones. They look and stare at Me. 18 They divide My garments among them, And for My clothing they cast lots.

27 All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You.

28 For the kingdom is the Lord's, And He rules over the nations.

29 All the prosperous of the earth Shall eat and worship; All those who go down to the dust Shall bow before Him, Even he who cannot keep himself alive.

30 A posterity shall serve Him. It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation,

31 They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born, That He has done this.

All this talk of Jesus "not knowing" is foolishness and a total denial of His divinity.

[Guest Cephas]

You all are missing the obvious.

All this talk of Jesus "not knowing" is foolishness and a total denial of His divinity.

Exactly. And as for those suggesting Jesus was somehow temporarily separated from God, Jesus could not be separated from God because Jesus is God, read the first chapter of John for one proof. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God."

[Floatingaxe]

My understanding is that Jesus, bearing the full weight of man's sin would have had to undergo some separation from the Father God, at that moment of transference. Hence the loud cry...probably ear-piercing. Just try to imagine that! It must have been more unbearable than the pain inflicted on His body by the Roman soldiers. He endured a momentary separation from the Father so that we never have to! All praise be to the Son!

[Candi770]

Floatingaxe

[Tribulation]

"My God my God ......."

These are the words of someone who definitely did not expect to be there.

Did you miss my reply?