"And all were healed"

[MrLuke]

EDIT - 24.07.07: Bringing this topic back to life to try get some more definate answers. Maybe it should be moved to the Doctrinal forum section mods? -thanks

This is something I would like to go into in more detail, given the time, to try and understand and learn from. If anyone else has previously studied what I'm about to say then please feel free to post what you have learnt

It just occurs to me that more often than not (if at all, except maybe the time Jesus wasn't accepted in His hometown), that when the disciples prayed for people to be healed, they were! Just looking in Acts shows this. I haven't looked all that deeply, but when do you see in the NT people coming for healing and walking away still sick, wondering why God didn't heal them which is what seems to be the norm in many churches today? I am fully aware that you need the power of the Holy Spirit working within you, and Jesus did say to lay hands on the sick for them to be healed in His name - yet it doesn't always seem to work like that now. Some people still come away ill and sick.

As someone who has been graciously given the gift of healing, I have only seen the opposite happen in that "all were healed" who have come to me so far.

So what is going on in churches today I wonder and ask? Is it due to lack of faith on the sick person's end or the person praying? Or both perhaps? Is it that God keeps some sick to teach them stuff (which to me doesn't add up if they have come to someone to be healed, like people did in the NT and got healing) maybe like the blind man they are sick to show God's glory, but even then he got healed when prayed over so God's glory was shown there and then - not in a few weeks/months/years when the sickness/illness goes slowly away.

I would like to find some scriptures to quote more accurately anything I have mentioned here, but it's 1am right now so I will do it tomorrow, I just wanted to get this posted and out of my head while I was thinking about it!

Please, post scripture, thoughts and opinions or your own studies you have done on this topic - then maybe we will all learn something new and be strengthened and encouraged in our faith and more able to answer the difficult questions of healing that people sometimes pose us with!

-Enjoy!

[Candi770]

Just my opinion but some congregations are not ready for it, or have not been fed scripture concerning this; healing. They need faith to believe. Faith cometh by hearing of the word of God. I believe that God gives visions to men of God in Churches and it is very interesting to see diverse gifts that are exercised in Churches, it has a lot to do with what they are feeding on.

[gypc]

This is probably going to be a good discussion and I doubt if any of us are gonna get it right.LOL

It might be God's mercy that healing manifestations are not all around. Think about something......we desire for the same kind of things the early church had. They had great healings and miricles. They had great revivals but they also had things like God killing Ananias and Sapphira for lying. I believe ya can't have one without the other so that's why I say it might be God's mercy. I don't know hmmmmmmm

[Leonard]

MAY THE LORD DO IT AGAIN!!!+

[nebula]

Amen!

[MrLuke]

Just my opinion but some congregations are not ready for it, or have not been fed scripture concerning this; healing. They need faith to believe. Faith cometh by hearing of the word of God. I believe that God gives visions to men of God in Churches and it is very interesting to see diverse gifts that are exercised in Churches, it has a lot to do with what they are feeding on.

Yeah I thnk I do tend to agree with this, that faith is the absolute essence of seeing God move!

This is probably going to be a good discussion and I doubt if any of us are gonna get it right.LOL

It might be God's mercy that healing manifestations are not all around. Think about something......we desire for the same kind of things the early church had. They had great healings and miricles. They had great revivals but they also had things like God killing Ananias and Sapphira for lying. I believe ya can't have one without the other so that's why I say it might be God's mercy. I don't know hmmmmmmm

Hey I for one would love to see and have what the early church had going on happening now! If more people dropped dead from lying to God maybe Christians would buck up their ideas and actually start living and listening to God more! haha!

But then I wonder also, was Ananias and Sapphira condemned after death for lying, or was THAT God's mercy on them so they could almost "quit while they were ahead" - they may have sinned then but what if they were allowed to live? Hmm...

[MrLuke]

OK, so I'm studying the gifts and healing is the next on the list of what to look at and into, so I'm dragging up this old post again because the same questions are still lingering that I originally posted - even when I've acted in this gift area of laying hands and seeing instant results or none at all or for a delayed period; I still don't understand it. And I like understanding, I like to learn in order to teach and this is something that I can't come down on very solidly as to where I stand on the issue.

So please, if you will, can we get this topic up and running again? I've searched the forums for similar threads on the healing gift, but found none specifically on it - just debates and arguments with some guy called Franky67 and threads to do with the gift not operating anymore..

So anyway..post away!

[EricH]

There can be no doubt that God promises healing to all. It is not a question of "if". It is a question of timing

Alos, I'll move this to doctrinal issues

[EricH]

Moved from the General Duscussion Forum to the Doctrinal Questions Forum

[TM75]

If you want to restart a topic which in the apostles hand is an holy way which no unclean person goes through.

One post said: It might be God's mercy that healing manifestations are not all around. About the early church, they had the baptism of the holy ghost by laying on of hands, by elect and chosen saints of God. Today we are suffered to walk in darkness, but here you shall see a great light.

If you believe in the J, then the devils in hell tremble at the name of Iesus Christ, through whose name by faith in this name wilt thou be healed.

Try looking at the denominations and see if you can find holy ghost healing and notable miracles which arenot false signs and wonders which would bring the very chosen into error.

If you bide not still in unbelief you can recieve healing if you had faith as a grain of mustard seed

Romans 3:7-10

7 if the verity of God appear more excellent thorow my lie, unto his praise, why am I hence forth judged as a sinner?

8 and say not rather (as men evil speak of us, and as some affirm that we say) let us do evil, that good may come thereof. Whose damnation is just.

9 What say we then? Are we better than they? no, in no wise. For we have all ready proved how that both Jewes and gentiles are all under sin,

10 as it is written: There is none righteous, no not one: