Floatingaxe Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Paradise is literally a tropical paradise inside the earth, illuminated by the light of God. WHERE in the Bible do you get that idea from? Paradise was Hades, not Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp1948 Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 101 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/02/1948 Share Posted October 20, 2006 "Hell was not unlocked until Jesus was in the grave for three days. When he arose and Ascended into heaven that was the opening of the availibility of salvation for man and condemnation to "Hell" offered by the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted October 20, 2006 From reading the posts in this thread I have come to the conclusion that a Christian is free to believe whatever he wishes about heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo, Paradise, Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2006 From reading the posts in this thread I have come to the conclusion that a Christian is free to believe whatever he wishes about heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo, Paradise, Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted October 20, 2006 From reading the posts in this thread I have come to the conclusion that a Christian is free to believe whatever he wishes about heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo, Paradise, Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jude 1:3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Paradise is literally a tropical paradise inside the earth, illuminated by the light of God. WHERE in the Bible do you get that idea from? Amongst other passages, "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things." (Ephesians 4:9-10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jude 1:3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 The dead are at rest, asleep, until the Lord returns. To equate Paradise or Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Amongst other passages, "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things." (Ephesians 4:9-10) Yes, He now has ascended into heaven after first descending into the grave that He may fulfill all things. Nothing mystical or complicated about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jude 1:3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Amongst other passages, "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things." (Ephesians 4:9-10) Yes, He now has ascended into heaven after first descending into the grave that He may fulfill all things. Nothing mystical or complicated about it. So what you're saying is, this beautiful paradise of which Christ spoke is simply the grave? Wow. Some paradise. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Luke 23:43) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted October 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Yes the NIV has it: John 3:13... No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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