Who Is Babylon?? according to Jeremiah 50-51

[Zceiv]

Of course most christians would disagree because they expect to be raptured first. And I consider pretribulationism to be most deceptive and most widely held false doctrine of our time.

rev

i agree

[Guest shiloh357]

I believe (for now anyway) Saddam reincarnated will become the antichrist for the reasons listed below.

1. That he is the "reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar."

2. That he is the "god of rebirth and resurrection."

3. Saddam in Hebrew gematria is 666! (second "d" is silent)

Gematria is Kabbalistic, and is thus occultic in nature. If you are using Gematria, you already demonstrate that you are off in left field. Trying to make someone's name equal 666 is just silly, and really does not mean anything.

Secondly, "reincarnation" is unbiblical. There is no such thing as "reincarnation." Saddam is dead (PTL) and will never return to plague humanity again.

[nebula]

excuse me? why are you doubting that saddam could infact be the anti-christ? many people beleive hitler will be the antichrist.

we can't say for sure. so you souldnt eleminate the choices

Yeah, and some people believe the Easter Bunny is the Anti-Christ.

What people believe doesn't make it so.

By whose power would Saddam be raised from the dead? I have yet to hear of anyone being raised back to life apart from I AM.

As Shiloh pointed out, reincarnation is a pagan concept. The Lord did not make reincarnation a possibility in this universe.

Saddam has met his judgment. Unless God has reason to call him from the grave, his soul/spirit will remain in judgment. There is no reason for God to resurrect the Anti-Christ!

Zeiv, do you believe Jesus is Lord? I ask because what you are advocating is not in line with His teaching.

Edited January 9, 2007 by nebula

[nebula]

nebula,

Yeah, and some people believe the Easter Bunny is the Anti-Christ

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I never heard that one. Please tell me all about it.

It's called sarcasm - making a ridiculous statement as a means of making a point.

Saddam has met his judgment. Unless God has reason to call him from the grave, his soul/spirit will remain in judgment. There is no reason for God to resurrect the Anti-Christ!

Maybe Saddam has not met his final judgement. Maybe God will allow Satan to do resurrect Saddam from his deadly wound.

What Scriptural evidence do you have for this?

Zeiv, do you believe Jesus is Lord? I ask because what you are preaching is not in line with His teaching.

You should not question someones salvation over such things. Don't get me started on this.

"Test the spirits." That is Scriptural.

Is Jesus your Lord and Savior?

[nebula]

Odd - that shouldn't be a threatening question.

If you had asked me if Jesus was my Lord and Savior I would be overjoyed to spill out my heart for Him before you.

I can't understand why you do not feel the same.

[nebula]

Hey, Shiloh!

Is Jesus your Lord and Savior?

[eric]

Neb,

Turmoil has been on about this tripe for years now......He is the one to be put on the iggy button......absolute rubbish.

[ted]

Rev,

You're simply going to have to pick another despot muslim ruler to fit in your theories. Saddam? He's dead, man. Surely you saw the videos? Maybe you even saw the newest video of his dead body on the gurney?

He's dead.

He did his best to fit himself as the new Nebuchadnezzar while he was alive, but it was all in his head. He failed to live up to his own image.

So, cross Saddam and Arafat off of your lists. Heck, put Ahmadinejhad in there. At least he's still alive at the moment, and could feasibly cause a lot of trouble for the world, right?

BTW- Is Jesus your Lord and Savior?

t.

[Floatingaxe]

3. Saddam in Hebrew gematria is 666! (second "d" is silent)

Drat! And here I was calling him, Sa- dee-dee- am! Ahem...when you have a double consonant, you do pronounce them as one! Thanks for the grammar lesson...pretty entertaining stuff.

[Guest shiloh357]

I have been saying for nearly four years that Saddam is the antichrist. Many of you seem to forget that the biblical antichrist is said to recover from a deadly wound.

I realize that he may not be the man of sin and am willing to accept any criticism over it. For now, he is still the one who best fits the biblical profile of the man of sin and I believe that it is he who will return to unite the sunni and shia sects of Islam and form the ten nation Islamic empire. (In the Arab world, Saddam is often spelled with one d)

What I will not tolerate are those who question my salvation. Whether sarcastically or out of ignorance.

Ahmadinejhad could also be the man of sin or the false prophet but I haven't researched him to see if he is an "Assyrian" etc. And Ted, you also are one my ignore list. I don't need your kind of sarcasm and ignorance either.

Something interesting happened the day Saddam was captured. Time magazine had their cover designed and articles completed for that week. But when news broke that Saddam was captured, the man who was originally featured for the cover that week was removed along with all of the articles about this particular man. They scrapped the cover design and articles of course and scrambled for time to put Saddam in his place. The man whose place Saddam took on the cover was Jesus Christ.

Rev

I would question anyone who puts any stock in occultic devices like Gematria.

Nebula's question is valid. Do you know Jesus as savior and Lord?