So What's Wrong With 'Leave It To Beaver' Type Days/Famili

[He giveth more grace]

I lived through the 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and the 'Ossie and Harriet' days, they were good days.

[georgesbluegirl]

Women in the house and the men out at work? All-white suburbs? General homogeneity? No thanks. While the idea of "a simpler time" is appealing, it really wasn't so, no matter how much nostalgia we have for the idea.

[Gerioke]

Women in the house and the men out at work?

I believe this to be a biblical notion. It beats having strangers raise our kids while we pursue the american dream.

[undone]

I lived through the 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and the 'Ossie and Harriet' days, they were good days.

I think the implication has to do with a couple of things:

First, Dems claim to be the progressive party to carry American in the future. My US government professor gave us his definition of liberal and conservative. Liberal - progressive, the willingness to think we can come together and solve problems (abbreviated). Conservative - the unwillingness to change. To recall past failures and learn by them. btw- my professor is a liberal. He doesn't seem to think that the past failures of liberalism should be regarded as a reason not to move forward with their ideas. I started to challenge this with him in class, but then I thought NAH!, I just need to pass the class, let it go.

Second, it implies Reps, and in particular the evangelical Christians who pushed Bush over the top in 2004, are simple minded.

[LadyRaven]

As long as people keep it in perspective, there is nothing wrong with an idea like leave it to beaver type families.

There are alot of single parents out there, there are alot of families where both parents must work, that is a reality and as along as those of us who are nto a leave it to beaver family are not PEANALISED for not being that way, I don't see a problem with it. There should always be an unreachable, or barely reachable ideal, a dream which does not include things which are blights on society. If you reach for the ground you get dirt, if you reach for the sky you have to at least stand up tall. As long as families who could never reach that ideal don't feel they need to give up due to not reaching it, there is nothing wrong with idealising a two parent, one income, healthy, loving family where everyone communicates.

That was my dream at one time... now I strive for a one parent, one income family which is loving and where everyone communicates and is as healthy as possible. ...

[Candi770]

It's all nice to think that I could return home from work, but it requires my helping out with the finances. I would leave this job in a minute, if I knew we had the finances to take care of everything. I'd have an awesome time.

[georgesbluegirl]

So am I gathering that a lot of people think the ideal is that women should stay home?

[Scarletprayers]

In the good ol' days, families were self-sufficient. Liberals want everyone to depend on the government.

For example, nearly all single-mothers depend on the financial support of others. Nearly all working mothers depend on strangers to raise their children, and increasingly, that stranger is the government.

I raised 3 kids by myself. I rec'd no financial support from anybody. (gee wonder where their daddy was) I made to much money to get any help and not enough to do more than survive. I paid for daycare myself, but with a family member so it didn't cost me as much as it would have to put them into daycare, plus I had a trusted family member taking care of them. So I was, by the Grace of God, self-sufficient, more or less. If child support laws were actually enforced more single mothers could do more than survive or have to depend upon government help.

[LadyRaven]

So am I gathering that a lot of people think the ideal is that women should stay home?

Scriptures command us to be keepers at home. Doesn't mean we have to be at home all the time or forbid a career for women, however, it sure is the easiest way to be what scripture commands. We don't have lesser obligations to the home just because we work. My friend is at home most of the time and she has a much easier time doing what God commands of her than I do. I'm a single mom and have no choice as the child support is not sufficient and eventually I will have to work anyway, so I need to have a work history for when the kids are gone....

The parents are the ones responsible to teach the children everything. If we choose to delegate those responsibilties to others we're still the ones responsible before God for what the children are taught. This is not limitied to doctrine, this means everything...inclduing history, science and math... I'd hesitate to think that if you are responsible for such things that the biblical pattern wouldnt be that you are the one actually doing and/or controlling them...

[Emily~Anne]

It seems that much of society has become very materialistic. Particularly non-Christians, their happiness seems to be rooted in having more then their neighbor. Making sure their kids have the most expensive toys, go to the most expensive pre-school, enroll in lots of private lessons and/or sports for almost every day of the week, have their own bedroom and have name brand clothes. It takes two incomes usually to be able to keep up with the financial demands of all this. And by doing this, they teach their children that materialism is more important than family. Society seems to think lots of money to keep up with today's standards = good parenting. The problem is the price families pay to keep up with being competitive in the materialistic world. Notice how ADHD is so much on the rise? I wonder if it has anything to do with the constant frenzied pace of their lifestyle? I believe it is harmful for children to be in the rat race.

Children belong at home with their family. The ideal is Mom be able to stay home, but I know that is not always possible. But in those cases (ie., single Mom's & Dad's) the message is not being portrayed to the child(ren) that materialsim is more important than family. The children will see that Mom has to work in order for them to eat, have a roof over their heads and survive, and that Mom is doing her very best. I believe there is a very special bond between single parents and their child(ren). I really cant put it in the right words to do it justice, but my heart goes out to single Mom's and Dad's, and I know God's does too and they are especially blessed. If I were in this situation I would take comfort in Romans 8:28 (And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.) and just do the best I can. God will take care of the rest!

As far as men and women, I believe they are created different by God's design, but equal. My contribution as a keeper at home is just as significant as my husband's.

Just do the best you can for your family and make Christ the focus, not materialism or society's standards.

Deuteronomy 6:5-7 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that i give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.