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who ever said living the christian life is simple that person needs to be slapped in love as i can tel you honestly living this life is not so simple as some seem to think and when ever i hear some one in the body say this i crack up and tel them to go to a third world country like india or china or even live in my partners country then tel me is living this life simple as you think it is

hope this makes sence i am only relating to this by what i have been threw my self

god bless from your brother in the lord damien

Makes perfect sense to me, damo. Being a Christian is harder than most anything.....simply because satan set traps for us everywhere! :grin:


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I need to learn how to restrain myself from saying stupid things whenever I get the inspiration.

ME TOO! :grin:

"Questioning God? Think life is unfair?"

When our children would complain that we were being unfair, we would reply that life is not fair, but we must all make the best decisions we can in the situations that we find ourselves in. Some have less, some have more, some are wise, some are foolish, but God never changes, and He loves us all, and if we will trust in His love, the fairness issue becomes a moot point.


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1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

um I already wrote a sermon thing on love for another forum so I am familiar with those verses. I am talking about secular love between a man and a woman.

ah I see, tryng to tell me I can't love unless I know God...ok...well if God's "love" consists of letting me be born with learning disabilities, ADHD, a metabolism problem, sever crippling migraines that are completely debilitating, a LOOSE vertabrea (you think i'm kidding its called spondelothesis or something like that. my lumbar 5 vertabrea never formed properly causing it to move around in my back and would eventually have caused paralysis if AI had not had surgery), raunads phenomena, sever asthmatic symptoms, letting me almost DIE as a baby because the doctor was a moron, etrc etc.

and if God's "love" consists of letting my 19 year old girlfriend have reccurrent ovarian cancer (she's had it 3 times), similar headaches, and many more problems, well than I question whether I want to know God's "love".

no offense to your beliefs of course. He could fix both of us in an instant...............but no. of course not, why would an omniscient all powerful God care about 2 insignifigant peons who dont worhsip him anyway. Please, answer that logically.

Hi maguschris,

You have said that sin had no repercussions in this present world! In this post, you could see how messed up this present world is, that is a perfect example why sin has very serious repercussions in this world.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

We all died spiritually and physically when sin entered the world, with it bringing much suffering and disease!

Rom 5:12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned: -

Rom 5:13 for until the law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a figure of him that was to come.

no offense to your beliefs of course. He could fix both of us in an instant...............but no. of course not, why would an omniscient all powerful God care about 2 insignificant peons who don't worship him anyway. Please, answer that logically

I do feel for your illness and pain! But you are propabaly not the only people who are ill! Job was landed very suddenly in his time with much pain and suffering that he could not make sense of but in the middle of the book, he sees that the solution of his pain & suffering is God.

He could ""fix"" both of you maguschris, but why should he when you have never asked him to?? God is a gentleman, he never forces his gifts on the unwilling!

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Right, I know what you mean. I usually think long and hard before I type anything so that I don't come off as a total idiot or offend anyone.

Ha ha, aww...

hopefully I didn't fall off that far.

As to the problem of evil: God allows pain and evil for our spiritual growth, punishment for sin, and sometimes it emerges from a misuse of our free will.


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Right, I know what you mean. I usually think long and hard before I type anything so that I don't come off as a total idiot or offend anyone.

Ha ha, aww...

hopefully I didn't fall off that far.

As to the problem of evil: God allows pain and evil for our spiritual growth, punishment for sin, and sometimes it emerges from a misuse of our free will.

Amen to that! Often painful experience!

causes of suffering may be our own fault or stupidity, due to other's fault or maybe from the devil. God often uses troubles and suffering to draw us back to the right path.1Pe 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials,

1Pe 1:7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ:

1Pe 1:8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

Resent not this correction unless one hardens his heart and God allows the brakes to be taken off and leave them to their own devices.

Rom 1:27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.

Rom 1:28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

Rom 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

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Right, I know what you mean. I usually think long and hard before I type anything so that I don't come off as a total idiot or offend anyone.

Ha ha, aww...

hopefully I didn't fall off that far.

As to the problem of evil: God allows pain and evil for our spiritual growth, punishment for sin, and sometimes it emerges from a misuse of our free will.

Amen to that! Often painful experience!

causes of suffering may be our own fault or stupidity, due to other's fault or maybe from the devil. God often uses troubles and suffering to draw us back to the right path.1Pe 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials,

1Pe 1:7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ:

1Pe 1:8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

Resent not this correction unless one hardens his heart and God allows the brakes to be taken off and leave them to their own devices.

Rom 1:27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.

Rom 1:28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

Rom 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Of course, part of the conception of sin was the altering of the world into an imperfect, painful place. We suffer the consequences of our race's nature even when we have not been implicitly evil.

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