Is Jesus who He said He is?

[nebula]

Please answer the question:

if a particular ritual required blood sacrifice, according to God's instruction, how does it follow from this that the shedding of blood is necessary for the remission of sins? That it couldn't have been done differently?

Because if there is a God who made heaven and earth and you and me -

Then He makes the rules.

Not you.

Sheesh . . . you remind me of a rebellious teenager.

[Floatingaxe]

if a particular ritual required blood sacrifice, according to God's instruction, how does it follow from this that the shedding of blood is necessary for the remission of sins? That it couldn't have been done differently?

Hebrews 9:22

And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Matthew 26:28

For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

[sweetycakes]

Jesus is who He said He is

[undone]

Jesus is who He said He is

Since He is...

Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord!

Question is...will you do so before it's too late?

Typical reasons people put this off:

They say there's no Creator, Heaven or Hell -

At some point in everyone's life, they'll be challenged to hold onto this belief. Whether that comes from contemplating the magnificence and complexity of the universe and it's inhabitants. Or when we see terrible violations against humanity. Or when we face the reality of our own or a loved ones death.

They believe there's plenty of time -

Very dangerous because tomorrow is NOT promised to any of us.

They believe in a creator but doubt the Lordship of Christ -

As evidenced by some of the activity in this thread, you'll be challenged to doubt the authenticity of the claims of Christ when considering the biblical account, the testimony of millions of other believers for 2000 years, the historical and archeological evidence that supports the bible, and sense the urging and conviction of the Holy Spirit.

They love their sin and refuse to admit it's sinfulness, therefore deny the need for repentence -

The bible gives us the 10 commandments (written in stone) as measure by which we will be judged. The bible tells us that we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Christ came to save men from their sin and grant them everlasting life in Heaven. Admit your a sinner (repent and abandon your efforts to get to God on your own). Believe that Christ was raised from the dead. Confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord. Do this, and you WILL be SAVED.

[cag7800]

You know it tears my heart when I read these Apologetics.I was thinking this morning as to when I first started to believe in Christ..It seems I can't find a starting place,I have always believed in Him.I have not always lived right,I have sinned more times than I can remember.I can trace my walk with Him,but I've always believed in Him.I've had 2 vision in my 50 years,so I know He is real.(you know in your spirit)I can't argue with someone about what the Bible says,I'm not that smart.But I try to live by example,I want people to see Christ in my life and I guess the Holy Spirit shows some people that (I in myself can not do that) .My brother has on his web site that it was through seeing my faith that he began to believe,I pray for the same for my 2 sons who are unbelievers,my brother-in-law told my sister"I wish I could believe like she does,but it just doesn't make sense to me"Our pastor say he believes that when people come to Christ its because somewhere someone was praying them through.I believe that too.My grandmother was a HOLINESS preacher and my uncle was a Evangelist. so maybe they prayed me through..

I guess what I trying to say is that it is impossible for me to NOT believe.

No need to comment ,just my thoughts

[sweetycakes]

Jesus is who He said He is

Since He is...

Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord!

Question is...will you do so before it's too late?

Typical reasons people put this off:

They say there's no Creator, Heaven or Hell -

At some point in everyone's life, they'll be challenged to hold onto this belief. Whether that comes from contemplating the magnificence and complexity of the universe and it's inhabitants. Or when we see terrible violations against humanity. Or when we face the reality of our own or a loved ones death.

They believe there's plenty of time -

Very dangerous because tomorrow is NOT promised to any of us.

They believe in a creator but doubt the Lordship of Christ -

As evidenced by some of the activity in this thread, you'll be challenged to doubt the authenticity of the claims of Christ when considering the biblical account, the testimony of millions of other believers for 2000 years, the historical and archeological evidence that supports the bible, and sense the urging and conviction of the Holy Spirit.

They love their sin and refuse to admit it's sinfulness, therefore deny the need for repentence -

The bible gives us the 10 commandments (written in stone) as measure by which we will be judged. The bible tells us that we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Christ came to save men from their sin and grant them everlasting life in Heaven. Admit your a sinner (repent and abandon your efforts to get to God on your own). Believe that Christ was raised from the dead. Confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord. Do this, and you WILL be SAVED.

I already DO believe, undone!

In fact - more than that - I KNOW.

People can believe something and it be wrong.

I know that Jesus is who He said He is.

[TheProcess]

Please answer the question:

if a particular ritual required blood sacrifice, according to God's instruction, how does it follow from this that the shedding of blood is necessary for the remission of sins? That it couldn't have been done differently?

Because if there is a God who made heaven and earth and you and me -

Then He makes the rules.

Not you.

Sheesh . . . you remind me of a rebellious teenager.

God makes the rules?

This blows your own argument apart. If God makes the rules, then he could easily have accepted something other than blood sacrifice. Blood sacrifice is not something necessary for the remission of sins.

[undone]

1 John 2:21-23 (NIV)

21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist

[nebula]

God makes the rules?

This blows your own argument apart. If God makes the rules, then he could easily have accepted something other than blood sacrifice.

I think you are saying God should have chosen something else, are you not?

Seriously, this is what I hear coming out of your arguments:

You in your superior intellect, logic and reason have determined that if there was a God, then He should operate a certain way. The God of the Bible does not operate in that way. Therefore, the God of the Bible does not exist.

You do not like the idea of blood being the price for sin. So you are arguing against Christianity on the basis of what you believe the rules should be.

But what makes your intellect, logic and reason so superior? By the process of evolution, there should evolve a species of higher intellectual and reasoning capacities than us Homo sapiens, just as we are of higher intellect and reasoning than Homo erectus. What if the next higher evolved beings look at the greatest of our thinkers and realize what complete idiots they were? Where does your superior logic and reason go then?

Blood sacrifice is not something necessary for the remission of sins.

I am wondering, do you even believe there is such a thing as "sin"?

[Floatingaxe]

Please answer the question:

if a particular ritual required blood sacrifice, according to God's instruction, how does it follow from this that the shedding of blood is necessary for the remission of sins? That it couldn't have been done differently?

Because if there is a God who made heaven and earth and you and me -

Then He makes the rules.

Not you.

Sheesh . . . you remind me of a rebellious teenager.

God makes the rules?

This blows your own argument apart. If God makes the rules, then he could easily have accepted something other than blood sacrifice. Blood sacrifice is not something necessary for the remission of sins.

Yes it is, because God says so. Done deal. To say it isn't necessary is a delusion, coming from one who sets himself up as higher than God. Dangerous game.