Sabbath on saturday or sunday?

[ParanoidAndroid]

^Glad I could be of help

[BlindSeeker]

For those of you who say (correctly) that the new covenant began at the moment of Jesus' death, and that the Jewish Sabbath was no longer in force, can you explain to me Mark 15.41 and 16.1 & 2, and Luke 23.54-24.1? Keep in mind that back then, days went from sundown to sundown. Why were these women still keeping the Sabbath (7th day), "according to the commandment", it says, after His death? Wouldn't His inner circle have known more than anyone that this was no longer necessary? Wouldn't it have been headline news for everyone?

There was no inner circle . . . and no they did not know.

To say it "was no longer necessary" is an assumption.

[kat8585]

For those of you who say (correctly) that the new covenant began at the moment of Jesus' death, and that the Jewish Sabbath was no longer in force, can you explain to me Mark 15.41 and 16.1 & 2, and Luke 23.54-24.1? Keep in mind that back then, days went from sundown to sundown. Why were these women still keeping the Sabbath (7th day), "according to the commandment", it says, after His death? Wouldn't His inner circle have known more than anyone that this was no longer necessary? Wouldn't it have been headline news for everyone?

There was no inner circle . . . and no they did not know.

To say it "was no longer necessary" is an assumption.

By "inner circle", I meant those closest to Him, like those women. Why would they have not known? I'd think everyone would have known such a monumental fact.

[Guest GrayOwl]

I believe the Sabbath was made for man (mankind, Not just Jewis Men/women) and not man for the Sabbath.

But I also believe that where 2 or more or gathered, He is there also and it doesnt matter what day of the week.

Many people have to work on both Saturday and Sunday. I am a nurse, so I believe that doing good on either of those days trumps Sabbath or Sunday traditions.

In Israel, many have to work on the Sabbath such as Doctors, nurses, policemen, the IDF, ect..

You are quite correct, the Sabbath WAS made for man. The day is non-negotiable, since God said six days to labor, and on the seventh to rest, just as He did. To deny that it applies to us, is to deny that we are His children and part of His creation, from which He rested on the seventh day.

Do we not love Him and thank Him for His goodness? To balk at His requirements is so ornery. We stop and remember and keep holy, because of His creation of which we are a beloved part.

[BlindSeeker]

For those of you who say (correctly) that the new covenant began at the moment of Jesus' death, and that the Jewish Sabbath was no longer in force, can you explain to me Mark 15.41 and 16.1 & 2, and Luke 23.54-24.1? Keep in mind that back then, days went from sundown to sundown. Why were these women still keeping the Sabbath (7th day), "according to the commandment", it says, after His death? Wouldn't His inner circle have known more than anyone that this was no longer necessary? Wouldn't it have been headline news for everyone?

There was no inner circle . . . and no they did not know.

To say it "was no longer necessary" is an assumption.

By "inner circle", I meant those closest to Him, like those women. Why would they have not known? I'd think everyone would have known such a monumental fact.

Why would they have known?

There is absolutely no scriptural reason to believe that they did . . . and significant scriptural basis to believe they did not know?

Are you stating the women were closer than the apostles . . . than John?

Support your position please

[Guest GrayOwl]

There is no proof that God bound the Sabbath on men from creation. Moses, does not mention in any passage,that Abraham kept the Sabbath.

Ezek. 20:10-12 says that God gave Israel,(One Nation, not all or 'Many'), the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them,when He lead the out of Egypt.

Duet. 5:15 says it was a memorial of that event.

Infact, Abraham was not even Jewish...

The Sabbath was given to the Jews 430 yrs. after the Promise was given to Abraham.

And again,nowhere does it show Abraham keeping Sabbath.

When he received the promise,he was not circumcised or obedient to the mosaic law. (Roman 4;Gal. 3)

Jesus,was the fulfillment of the promise (seed) given to Abraham,the Law cannot disannual the promise.

Jesus said, the Will of His Father was to believe on the Son..John 6:40

If sin is the transgression of the law, and it is, then Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath and the other commandments until the moment they rebelled against God.

Aside from that, Abraham is not our leader or example, Jesus is, and He kept the Sabbath and so did Paul, etal.

(Exo 31:13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it {is} a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that {ye} may know that I {am} the Lord that doth sanctify you.

And who are the children of Israel? Well, that is another subject for another thread.

[Guest GrayOwl]

I think that it's more important that you set aside a day for God, not which day of the week it is.

That sounds pretty logical, but then if we look at the 10 commandments in this light then why can't one say..."Well, it doesn't matter which god you serve as long as serve a god."

God does give us certain freedoms on how we want to do certain things, however, I believe the Sabbath is not one of them.

I find it interesting that mere man would tell God which day to set aside for Him, when He specifically says it is the seventh day. Don't you? How can the creature tell the creator what's up? Does God make deals with puny men?

[BlindSeeker]

There is no proof that God bound the Sabbath on men from creation. Moses, does not mention in any passage,that Abraham kept the Sabbath.

Ezek. 20:10-12 says that God gave Israel,(One Nation, not all or 'Many'), the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them,when He lead the out of Egypt.

Duet. 5:15 says it was a memorial of that event.

Infact, Abraham was not even Jewish...

The Sabbath was given to the Jews 430 yrs. after the Promise was given to Abraham.

And again,nowhere does it show Abraham keeping Sabbath.

When he received the promise,he was not circumcised or obedient to the mosaic law. (Roman 4;Gal. 3)

Jesus,was the fulfillment of the promise (seed) given to Abraham,the Law cannot disannual the promise.

Jesus said, the Will of His Father was to believe on the Son..John 6:40

Ge 26:2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:

3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;

4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

[Guest GrayOwl]

We are STILL debating this issue????

1930 years ago (plus or minus) Paul settled this issue once and for all. He wrote: "One man esteemeth one day above another, and another man esteemeth all days equally. Let each man be fully persuaded in his own mind," and then he exhorted us to 'live in peace' with one another.

Are we just a little 'slow' on the uptake!!?!!

I don't see the word "Sabbath" in that equation. Do you? Which one of the other commandments would you disregard right up and into the face of God?

[Guest GrayOwl]

There is no proof that God bound the Sabbath on men from creation. Moses, does not mention in any passage,that Abraham kept the Sabbath.

Ezek. 20:10-12 says that God gave Israel,(One Nation, not all or 'Many'), the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them,when He lead the out of Egypt.

Duet. 5:15 says it was a memorial of that event.

Infact, Abraham was not even Jewish...

The Sabbath was given to the Jews 430 yrs. after the Promise was given to Abraham.

And again,nowhere does it show Abraham keeping Sabbath.

When he received the promise,he was not circumcised or obedient to the mosaic law. (Roman 4;Gal. 3)

Jesus,was the fulfillment of the promise (seed) given to Abraham,the Law cannot disannual the promise.

Jesus said, the Will of His Father was to believe on the Son..John 6:40

Ge 26:2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:

3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;

4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Excellent! I'd shake your hand, but I'm so far away!