Mormon Candidate Braces for Religion as Issue

[forrestkc]

Ok let ingore the OT

as for The topic with Oh abortion and homosexlity is immoral

Wars in the Old Testament were under the direction of God. Jesus in the New Testament preached a consistent message of making peace with your enemies and of non-violence in the face of injustice.

For example, do you think that war in Iraq is a war that is sanctioned by God?

[Zceiv]

Ok let ingore the OT

as for The topic with Oh abortion and homosexlity is immoral

Wars in the Old Testament were under the direction of God. Jesus in the New Testament preached a consistent message of making peace with your enemies and of non-violence in the face of injustice.

For example, do you think that war in Iraq is a war that is sanctioned by God?

Do you think it was nessasary?

[forrestkc]

Ok let ingore the OT

as for The topic with Oh abortion and homosexlity is immoral

Wars in the Old Testament were under the direction of God. Jesus in the New Testament preached a consistent message of making peace with your enemies and of non-violence in the face of injustice.

For example, do you think that war in Iraq is a war that is sanctioned by God?

Do you think it was nessasary?

No, neither would the vast majority of intelligence community or retired Generals. A just war is one that is completely unavoidable. It is an absolute last resort. For example, the war in Afghanistan was completely unavoidable for us, it was an absolute last resort. Similarly, our involvement in World War II was a just war. It was an absolute last resort.

[forrestkc]

Ok let ingore the OT

as for The topic with Oh abortion and homosexlity is immoral

Wars in the Old Testament were under the direction of God. Jesus in the New Testament preached a consistent message of making peace with your enemies and of non-violence in the face of injustice.

For example, do you think that war in Iraq is a war that is sanctioned by God?

It also teaches in the New Testament that Jesus will come back as a conquering king after the tribulation period and will fight a literal battle against the anti-Christ and those loyal to him. This will involve saints fighting unbelievers. This proves that God hasn't changed in regard to war.

Yes, Jesus, not us. Wars in the Bible are under the direction of God, they are not well intentioned notions of man.

[forrestkc]

It still shows clearly from the New Testament that God cannot have changed his view of war. There is nothing in the New Testament that made the claim that it is wrong for nations to go to war. Jesus never spoke to the subject at all. He only spoke to the topic of individuals harming each other. The Old Testament equally had the commandment about not killing, but also had the death penalty, as well as God supporting wars.

Come on, that makes no sense. Jesus taught about non-violence among individuals, yet has no problem with war for any reason? That is simply ridiculous. The reason why Jesus did not address nations going to war with nations is that in the Roman Empire that would be have sedition, and they were trying to catch him in an act of sedition all the time. The whole "render unto Caesar" is an example of that.

There is no difference between how individuals should conduct themselves and how nations should conduct themselves. After all, when did Jesus become Pro-War?

You look at our history as a nation. The just wars we were forced to fight as a last resort like World War I, World War II, and Afghanistan. The elective unjust wars we have fought like Vietnam and Iraq have been unwinnable.

[Gerioke]

It still shows clearly from the New Testament that God cannot have changed his view of war. There is nothing in the New Testament that made the claim that it is wrong for nations to go to war. Jesus never spoke to the subject at all. He only spoke to the topic of individuals harming each other. The Old Testament equally had the commandment about not killing, but also had the death penalty, as well as God supporting wars.

Come on, that makes no sense. Jesus taught about non-violence among individuals, yet has no problem with war for any reason? That is simply ridiculous. The reason why Jesus did not address nations going to war with nations is that in the Roman Empire that would be have sedition, and they were trying to catch him in an act of sedition all the time. The whole "render unto Caesar" is an example of that.

There is no difference between how individuals should conduct themselves and how nations should conduct themselves. After all, when did Jesus become Pro-War?

You look at our history as a nation. The just wars we were forced to fight as a last resort like World War I, World War II, and Afghanistan. The elective unjust wars we have fought like Vietnam and Iraq have been unwinnable.

Matthew 10

34 Do not have the thought that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword.

[eric]

A very nicely timed part of scipture. Geri. if I may say so.

[forrestkc]

Matthew 10

34 Do not have the thought that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword.

Read the passage in context, it has nothing to do with setting nation against nation.

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For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;

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and one's enemies will be those of his household.'

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"Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;

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and whoever does not take up his cross 15 and follow after me is not worthy of me.

When you look at the passage in context, the sword is a figurative reference for personal division, not war and violence.

[RustyAngeL]

His father George Romeny was the governor of Michigan for years and it was never a problem. Why should this be?

[ayin jade]

I live in a mormon area. Many politicians are mormon. I would never vote for one after what I have seen of mormon politicians in my area.