Who is Azazel?

[angels4u]

Thank you George for your reply,its very biblicial.

Does the Bible not say that just as the days of Noah were they shall be before Jesus comes back, do you think this whole thing demons having sex with women can happen again or is happening already again? (Aliens or UFO's)?

I believe this happened just before the flood and that this was the reason for God to destroy everything that lived in that time.

You know how history repeats itself...

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Thanks, Angels

[Guest Fegor]

I believe that too.

That is the reason given by God for the flood in Genesis 6. God saw things he could not stand being in the world, so He gave a 120 year deadline for things to change and then no body cared and they died for it. I find the Nephilim a facinating subject to study around, although it is not my final aim to understand these giants I still cannot get enough of the Antedeluvian culture. Did you know that Cain married Abel's twin sister? A big part of the reason he killed his brother so that he could take his wife who was said to be more attractive than Eve even. Facinating.

Genesis 6 vs 2+4

2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

I can accept that I sometimes talk of the Bible a bit synically but that is only because if I did not I would run into brick walls of mis interpretation. I am open to ideas of the weaknesses of the Bible. Once I was researcing wisdom for a discussion with a friend about wisdom and knowledge. I went through all the verses in my concordance picking out the ones that supported my argument and leaving the others. Later when God had sufficiently gnawed at me I went back and went through the others and found that I had only skimmed the surface and infact were saying not what I thought but something that actually supported me. If I indeed spot a trend between Enoch and Revelation then I am sure, due to the fact that God is real, that it will be upbuilding to my faith. If I find Enoch is an evil book full of false teachings then I will read on unafraid because even in false teaching I can learn. This was proved when I made contact with some Satanists. I don't shy away from what seems to be a weakness in the scriptures because if I look hard enough then I will always find that it infact it is saying something different to what I thought.

I don't want to end this thread incase someone has an opinion on the title, but thankyou everyone. I thought I was alone in the Christian community for having these kind of questions.

Azazel is a big theme in my book and the more information about his true nature the better.

[eric]

Hey Fegor,

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I can accept that I sometimes talk of the Bible a bit synically but that is only because if I did not I would run into brick walls of mis interpretation. I am open to ideas of the weaknesses of the Bible

I'm sorry, but I've read the bible some and I haven't come across any weaknesses yet. God is the author of the bible, through inspiration I believe and I wouldn't dare suggest that any of the bible was weak. Wrong choice of word usage I think. I am afraid I'm a bit fussy too and very defensive, if you know what I mean. No offence.

[CWJ]

Azazel is a big theme in my book and the more information about his true nature the better.

I think we know enuff about Azazel...God told us all He thought we should know....I think we should focus on knowing more of the Lord's will than finding out more about fallen angels....

We know what we need to know about them, they will suffer in the lake of fire.

It could be a little unhealthy spiritually to quest for such knowledge of the fallen ones.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

I'm sorry, but I've read the bible some and I haven't come across any weaknesses yet. God is the author of the bible, through inspiration I believe and I wouldn't dare suggest that any of the bible was weak. Wrong choice of word usage I think. I am afraid I'm a bit fussy too and very defensive, if you know what I mean. No offence.

Hi,

I dont think he means weakness of the original written word but of the translations. I have found many weaknesses of translations of the bible, but that does not take away from fact that the bible is inspired by God.

Many translations with a single omitted or mistranslated word destroy, confuse and/or weaken the whole context of a message and many translations are guilty of this even the KJV which some people hold in such high regard. This is why it is so important to study the word of God with diligence and carefulness.

I have even noticed that some translations have omitted, added, mistranslated words in attempt to bend scripture to fit the translator's doctrine. I am speaking of protestant translators.

Thanks,

Jason

[eric]

Hi Jedi4Yaweh That's okay, you jokers stir up your demons and devils whilst I seek the joys of knowing that I'm protected from them. Luke.10:19. You can always find evil if you search long enough. Enoch's book was obviously left out of the bible for a reason. As for me and my house?..................catch ya later.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Hi Jedi4Yaweh

[eric]

Hey Jedi, chill out a bit. I was neither hateful or mean, and my post was direcred originally to Fegor as he was enquiring about one called Azazel which is a devil of some sort. I also stated that I have never noticed any weaknesses in God's word the bible and I have read most of the versions. The translations may vary a bit, but the message is the same. I am not into demonology and the insinuation that the RCC was the institution that decided that the book of Enoc was not to be included in the cannon of the Word is news to me. I am neither angry or offended btw and never intended to be offensive. Just giving my opinion about people who chase demons....cheers.

[Guest shadow2b]

---ahhhhhh---eric--me-first-mate----thank you sir----

-hmmmm....what are you talking about? And where do you attain your mean and hatefulness from? Have I said something to offend you? Are you angry because I said that some translations are faulty?

-mon-dei mon ami??-nes'pa ci'est mon ami??

[eric]

Gidday me old mate Gary. Hey bro you know it's not my scene to be rude to anyone, but the forum to discuss demonology is 'spiritual warfare' not 'doctrinal questions'. Satan, demons and devils never give me any problems because there aint no room for em to operate. The only folks that they can bother are the ones that take their focus off Jesus. I always said if you got yerself covered with the blood of the Lamb and are filled with the indwelling Holy Spirit, satan caint come within spittin distance of ya. So why scare the sox offn yerself by readin up on demons and stuff. Besides there's plenty of other message boards that cater for that kinda scary stuff LOL Karen will skin me alive if she reads this post, but I dont mind coz she's an expert not someone whos only been reading the Word for five minutes.

Hey! youall take care me old Texan cobber and tell Patsy g'day for me.

Love you guys heaps.