Is Hell ETERNAL?

[Guest Calamity]

Who do they believe that Jesus is, do you know? It's bound to be strange, if they believe this other stuff.

[Guest dove2]

They do believe in the second coming of Christ, but they are mistranslating the Bible. They are trying to use Greek and Hebrew to study the Bible with two certain words that is supposed to be new meanings to them. I use the Greek and Hebrew to study also, but sure don't come up with this utter apostate Church nonsense. Do you use Strong's Concordance with Hebrew for Old Testament and Greek for New Testament?

[Guest Calamity]

I use an online version of Strongs right now. I can see the type better, LOL. Hubby's got a very good Bible with all that included in it, but the type's too small for me until I get glasses, LOL!!!

[Guest dove2]

An online verson works just as well. I have glasses but still have to use a magnifying glass to read the small print. LOL. Do you use Unger's Bible Dictionary to study also?

[Faith1]

Okay my 2cents worth on this subject is that weather we reject Christ and what He has done for us and we go to hell, or we believe in Him and what He has done for us and we go to heaven, it is eternal.

I do not believe one can escape hell after they are there...eternal means 'just that' ETERNAL! there are NO 2nd chances to redeem ones self, surely if that were the case then Christ died for nothing...uggghhhh what a horrid thought....

Great subject Calamity....I'm with you!

[Guest Teri]

Ok Calamity your first post was good and you had a word there aionios that is correct. But the problem being is the Strongs Concordance does not give you the literal meaning of words, what is gives you is how it is used in our translations. The word Aionios comes from the root word Aion, which in the Greek literally means age, or a generation. Paul and the apostles did not write in our meanings today but what the word meant to them then. Our word Eon comes from the Greek word aion, and even in that the meaning has been stretched a bit, which means a very long length of indefinite time. If you have a good dictionary that gives the origins of words and it will tell you where the word eon came from which was the Greek word aion and if the dictionary is really good it will give you the adjective aionios. Then go and look up the words everlasting, eternal, forever which all came from the latin. By your own admission quench and aionios have some pretty different and even contradictory meanings in our language, go back and read your post and really look at those words.

For instance if you were to say right now that that girl is really cool how would the apostles understand that to mean what you said, they would think you were saying that girl is not warm. Even now from generation to generation words have different meanings, like my son uses the term shake and bake to say how savvy he is on the basketball court, I know shake and bake as something to cook with. I had to ask him how he was using that term. So it is with the scriptures we need to go back to the days of the writers and ask them what they meant by that word. What was the meaning at the time it was written.

Even within our english scriptures is contradictions. To sin is to die. If you are a sinner you will be thrown in a lake of eternal fire, all men are sinners and if anyone says their not they are a liar. So out of all of that we are all going to either die, or be thrown in a lake of eternal torment. So if we just pluck out those words out of the scriptures without truly understanding the whole of scripture then we have a dilema because which is it am I going to die or am I going to be eternally tormented? All men everywhere have a natural death so it can not mean that because we all die, none of us are getting out of this alive.

If you go to the OT and read about the priesthood of Aaron it is going to last forever, except for one problem it didn't , it was passed on to the priesthood of Melchizedek. Christ came through the tribe of Judah and is not of the Levite priesthood and he's our high priest. Go to Jonah and he says he is in Sheol forever, except he wasn't he was there for only 3 days.

Keep searching Calamity you have been brought to this for a reason. As Christ says seek and you shall find.

In Yeshua's love

Teri

[Faith1]

HUH! :!!!: :c: what's Calamity spose to be searching for???? sheeesh maybe I better go back and read a few more posts me thinks....

F1 backs off scratching head

[Rick]

I once remember reading a story that gave what I thought was a terrific representation of eternity. It sort of placed it into something I could relate to.

The story goes:

There is a mountain of stone, and every 1000 years a raven flies to the mountain and scratches its beak against the stone of this mountain. and then leaves, not to return again, until another 1000 years have passed. When this mountain of stone has been worn away from this process, one day of eternity will have passed.

I know, a bit corny , But it does give an ideal of what eternity represents.

So with the soul of man being created an eternal being, I would much rather spend it with the Lord than in the confines and torment of hell.

" These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; That ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5: 13.

Rick

[traveller]

Nice Rick! Thanks

[endure4salvation]

(Put on your blasphmy goggles)

The Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and that the reason they don't get along is because Eloheim (God) chose Jesus' plan of humankind salvation over Satan's.

They also believe that there are 3 different levels of heaven and that the worst of us go to the lowest level which is described as an earth that is back to perfect.

The highest level can only be attained by being a 'good' Mormon and getting married in the 'temple' and doing all that mess.

(Take your blasphmy goggles off now)