Cancers of a people

[larryt]

All illness, not just cancer is rooted in sin.

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Shalom LT,

That is simply not true. Please read the Scripture above where Jesus Himself disputes that false doctrine. Who do we believe, you or Jesus?

Was there illness before Adam sinned??????

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[Vickilynn]

All illness, not just cancer is rooted in sin.

LT

Shalom LT,

That is simply not true. Please read the Scripture above where Jesus Himself disputes that false doctrine. Who do we believe, you or Jesus?

Was there illness before Adam sinned??????

LT

Shalom LT,

There wasn't any illness until Adam sinned.

And as a result, we live in a fallen world and decaying bodies. That is the physical ramification of the sin. Jesus broke the "curse" from Adam's sin, so we are not under that curse. So, it is not true that all illness is caused by sin. Jesus said it wasn't.

[Fraught]

Do you think We, as a people, are responsible for the Cancers that exist in the World today? Do you think we are respnsible, as a world, for the Cancers we have bestowed on and about God's Earth? Who do you blame?

No. I notice that you have capitalized cancer. I wonder about this. But if you think about it, cancer is just TOOO random! you must know people who have done all the wrong things according to the docs and they're very healthy. and then a small child gets leukemia. cancer does not make sense. it has no order. this is a universe of order. now this is going to sound odd, but logically, i can't believe in cancer. yes i have seen cancer, but i do not believe in it. if you do think that's crazy, how about this? i have not seen Jesus but i do believe in him.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it!!

Cajunboy::::Interesting statement Fraught, "i can't believe in cancer." Can you explain it farther in detail? I'm curious about people's statements at times. thanks.

I hope I haven't given the impression of making light of people's illness and sufferings. I grieve for these things. But look at the so-called knowledge that scientists, doctors, physicists have gained over just the past hundred years. It's easy to see that over and over again, they will come up with a fact that all of society will believe and act upon and then what, 10 years later (if that long) we'll hear "oh that wasn't it, it's such and such." It's everything from the mundane such as how much if any sunshine you should get or what causes weight gain all the way to psychological issues such as nature vs. nurture and if you really want to blow your mind check out some quantum physics or quantum mechanics and you see that these experts cannot even agree on the nature of reality.

This is an excerpt from an article on a website called multiversaljourneys.org

Puzzles of Quantum Mechanics

Two of the mysteries of Quantum Mechanics are:

* Wave-Particle Duality: Subatomic particles such as electrons behave as both particles and waves.

* Observer and the act of measurement (Schr

[jeffnevins]

I think the sin of the love of money is responsible for cancer, "genetic" diseases, and a host of other ailments.

Are you saying there are no diseases out there that are causes by genetic defects?

Explain sickle-cell anemia and cystic fibrosis to me.

Shalom,

Exactly!! Genetic diseases are caused by genetic anomalies, not sugar and not the love of money.

Exactly.

Genetic anomalies aren't of sugar or love of money. There's no way I'd argue with a person online. They win. I go back to work on animation & design.

A theory (keep in mind I'm an animator with an interest in health, its ties to clear thinking, and religion & Christianity)

They're also not natural or of God (why would he screw up our DNA), leaving man (possibly from non-God made toxins).

Take care.

[MeCajunboy]

All illness, not just cancer is rooted in sin.

LT

Shalom LT,

That is simply not true. Please read the Scripture above where Jesus Himself disputes that false doctrine. Who do we believe, you or Jesus?

Was there illness before Adam sinned??????

LT

Cajunboy::::How would that explain the child or infant that was literally too young to sin before they contracted a serious illness and then died from it?

[aphrodite]

I don't know that I really "blame" anyone for cancer. There are different reasons why a disease like cancer happens---genetics, lifestyle, etc. The only natural thing each of us an do is to strive to be healthy (eat right and exercise), and be regularly tested or monitored for different signs of cancers (mammogram for breast cancer, colonscopy for colon cancer, etc.) Early detection often means a better chance at beating cancer.

[larryt]

All illness, not just cancer is rooted in sin.

LT

Shalom LT,

That is simply not true. Please read the Scripture above where Jesus Himself disputes that false doctrine. Who do we believe, you or Jesus?

Was there illness before Adam sinned??????

LT

Cajunboy::::How would that explain the child or infant that was literally too young to sin before they contracted a serious illness and then died from it?

The child or infant does not become a sinner because they sin. They sin because they are born sinners. Sin is in the world because Adam sinned. And we were all in Adam when he sinned.

Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Job 15:14 What [is] man, that he should be clean? and [he which is] born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Job 15:15 Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

Job 15:16 How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

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[larryt]

All illness, not just cancer is rooted in sin.

LT

Shalom LT,

That is simply not true. Please read the Scripture above where Jesus Himself disputes that false doctrine. Who do we believe, you or Jesus?

Was there illness before Adam sinned??????

LT

Shalom LT,

There wasn't any illness until Adam sinned.

And as a result, we live in a fallen world and decaying bodies. That is the physical ramification of the sin. Jesus broke the "curse" from Adam's sin, so we are not under that curse. So, it is not true that all illness is caused by sin. Jesus said it wasn't.

Jesus also died that men might have life. Does everybody get saved? NO! Yes, Jesus broke the curses laid on man. One of those is that man will die. I haven't met anyone who has not succumbed to that curse eventually. How about pain in childbirth, or toiling in sweat to earn a living? True a curse causless shall not come. Have you checked what truly brings about curses? And Jesus didn't say that sin was not at the root of everyone's infirmities but just that particular instance of the person born blind. He told other go an sin no more lest something worse come upon you.

Joh 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

In the case of the one born blind the question was of a particular nature. Did HE or his PARENTS sin? Not that he had a sin nature. An in another point. The one born blind was to SHOW THE GLORY OF GOD. The most prevalent reason for infirmity is direct sin in the lives of people. I haven't met many people living their lives as Job.

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

The problem is that we are so full of worldly thinking and so permeated with the flesh that it is a wonder that we ar not more cursed. Only those that appropriate the blessing are blessed.

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[Vickilynn]

Shalom Larry,

The words of Jesus says just the opposite. I choose to believe Him.

John 9:

1 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 And his disciples asked him,"Rabbi,who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" 3 Jesus answered, "It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.

[larryt]

Shalom Larry,

The words of Jesus says just the opposite. I choose to believe Him.

John 9:

1 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 And his disciples asked him,"Rabbi,who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" 3 Jesus answered, "It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.

Did you notice the last 2 words that you underlined? "in him" indicated that Jesus was just talking about this particular case.

Jesus also said this:

Joh 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Do you believe Him here also?

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