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lol jump in here exrocker :emot-hug:

im not really sure what he's into. last chapter daniel says "11 "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. "

seems like he's only running with some text and over-looking other. who knows....

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Daniel 9:27 gives a few highlights of the 7-year Tribulation period. This verse says, "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate." The person of whom this verse speaks is the person Jesus calls the "abomination that makes desolate" (Matthew 24:15) and is called

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i was just tying to keep the debate on the light side, i saw exrocker on the post and was just saying jump in. was no disrespect to any, i have studied last days events for awhile, I believe in what i have studied from the scriptures , i do believe the scripure that say Iam the same yesturday,today,and forever, I believe God and his word never changes, I believe we have to seek the deeper things of God and he will reveal the answers to us, we can learn from each other on this forum, i also believe we have to be carefull in ("opening our mind) so we dont get lead away from the truth,

im actually not a big fan of eschatology. meaning....i know its coming but can't debate on it.

i do know there are a final seven years. there are some scriptures that set up a scenerio where

we can get a glimpse of how you know it's near.

i dont think its right around the corner but when i hear that the temple is

rebuilt then imma look out. however, the temple isnt built yet so imma worry more

about whats for dinner than end times.

i do think the temple will be rebuilt BEFORE we enter the last 7 years.


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. . . yet all prophecy in the Bible that has already been fulfilled has been fulfilled literally.

Hello Eddie. I would ask your opinion as to how these verse are literally fulfilled. Was it literally Elijah?

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

Mt 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Mt 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

By the way, I to not subscribe to the preterist theology as a whole . . . but as with many of the theological facets of Christianity, I believe there are some aspects of truths in each which one would be foolish to reject just because it is part of a theology which as a whole you do not accept. Example being, I am not a Catholic, but I would be foolish to reject those truths which they do believes just because they preach it.


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"Yes, the Temple was destroyed, but at some point in the future, it will be rebuilt, and the sacrifices will be re-instituted."

Where does it say that? :emot-handshake:


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"Yes, the Temple was destroyed, but at some point in the future, it will be rebuilt, and the sacrifices will be re-instituted."

Where does it say that? :emot-handshake:

Answer: The Bible mentions that some end-times events will occur in a temple in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15). Second Thessalonians 2:4, speaking of the Antichrist, tells us, "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." The Prophet Ezekiel described a temple that has as of yet never existed (Ezekiel chapters 40-48).


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Well, if it is as simple as a lot of posters on this board have made it out to be, for the last six years that I have been posting on worthy, eschatology or the study of it, would be a complete waste of time because the people, who discuss it, all claim that they have got it right.

Amill. premill. postmill???? ....someone has to be wrong. Far too many questions are left unsatisfactorily answered. Plenty of answers, but they are all conflicting. :emot-handshake:


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Well, if it is as simple as a lot of posters on this board have made it out to be, for the last six years that I have been posting on worthy, eschatology or the study of it, would be a complete waste of time because the people, who discuss it, all claim that they have got it right.

Amill. premill. postmill???? ....someone has to be wrong. Far too many questions are left unsatisfactorily answered. Plenty of answers, but they are all conflicting. :th_praying:

Eph 5:26 That He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

Re 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Just because the adversary has sent a flood of false doctrine to carry the church off into error doesn't mean the truth isn't still there to be found.

Mt 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

I'm not saying I found it . . . I saying that it is there to be found. That is part of the proving of our faith -

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.


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I am not suggesting that the truth is not there, William brother. it has to be. I think I might have used a bad choice of words in my post. I didn't mean to imply that studying eschatology is a waste of time, in fact I have been involved in the topic for many years and find it most exciting. When I first became a christian, it was hardly mentioned and I don't think most christians thought a great deal about it until about the nineties when Hussein started to flex his muscles and annexed Kuwait. and revved up some more after the 9/11 bombing.

I had never heard of preterism until about five years ago, or much about pre, mid or post tribulation, until I purchased a computer seven years ago and that was, as far as I am concerned by divine appointment, so like everyone else anything I had to offer would only be speculation. It's like a cryptic crossword, when you think you have it figured, you find you've spelled a word wrong.

c/ya, :laugh:


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"Yes, the Temple was destroyed, but at some point in the future, it will be rebuilt, and the sacrifices will be re-instituted."

Where does it say that? :laugh:

Answer: The Bible mentions that some end-times events will occur in a temple in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15). Second Thessalonians 2:4, speaking of the Antichrist, tells us, "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." The Prophet Ezekiel described a temple that has as of yet never existed (Ezekiel chapters 40-48).

These prophesies were made before the 2nd temple was destroyed. Why make prophesies about the destruction of the third temple but not the second? Why make prophesies concerning abominations and desolations of something that was not to occur for over 2,000 years but ignore the fact that people living were about to go through the same thing and never warn them? Why wasn't there a prophesy concerning the rebuilding of the third temple?

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