Have We Lost Our Public Schools

[sierra21]

Okay, when I was in grade 5 we had "sex education". But it wasn't really a bad thing. They seperated us based on gender and we talked with the public health nurses who showed the girls what to do with pads and tampons and whatnot. They also touched on the male reproductive system, but it was very tastefully presented. I think this was a good thing because some girls don't have parents that are willing to explain the whole period thing with them, and really, we should know at least a little something about what the opposite sex is going through as well. But I think it can be presented in an appropriate manner. I should mention that we were also given waivers that had to be signed by our parents in order to attend this "sex ed class".

Then in grade 7 health class we learned a bit more. We were together (boys and girls) and the teacher explained both reproductive systems, pregnancy and contraceptives- but abstinence was promoted as the only way to avoid both STD's and pregnancy. We were not shown how to use any contraceptive materials, but were given handouts on it. And throughout my middleschool/highschool career condoms were never offered to us, or provided in the washrooms. Although the teachers did have pads in middle school (in the even that someone started their period in school).

I find it pretty disturbing that the school would provide condoms to 11 year old KIDS. When I was 11 my head was so far from sex it isn't even funny! But I think the best prevention against sex starts in the home. Letting your kids know that you do not think teenage (or premarital, for that matter) sex is acceptable and it will not be tolerated. I would not have even attempted sex at home in fear of what my parents would do if they ever found out (coupled with the fact that I just was not interested in it).

I also have to point out that a big problem which is leading to pre-teen and teen sex is the parents letting their kids date too soon! My parents didn't let me date until I was 16, and it was always public dates, usually with other kids. We were NEVER allowed alone in the house, not even if they were home. I didn't have my first serious boyfriend until I was 18, almost 19, going to university and living on my own. By that time I had developed a standard for what was acceptable to me, based on the teachings my parents provided (biblical).

I really don't know what I'm going to do when my little one is in middleschool/highschool...seems like this whole sex issue is getting a bit out of control.

Way out of control. May I ask the year you graduated high school? Something has to be done like I said this way to bazaar and way to young for this type of exposure. Let kids be kids till the are ready.

I graduated in 2003. But I also live in Canada, which can sometimes be more liberal with these types of things (although apparently not in this case, but who knows what they're being taught now).

[sierra21]

Okay this just made me think of something. It's pretty gross so I warn you now.

A couple weeks ago we were down visiting family and were at my cousins house (who are "lukewarm christians" if you know what I mean). Anyways, the women were sitting in the kitchen and my cousin (whose married, with two girls, 5 and 7)- told us a story about something that had happened a few days before. Apparently the four of them were laying in bed on a saturday morning when her husbands hoo-haw I guess made a public appearance to which the 7 year old said "EWW!". Rightfully so I think. Anyways, my cousin went on to say that she told the girls it was nothing to be disgusted with and it was called a Penis. She said that she really hates it when kids call genitals something that they aren't and want them to know the right names for it.

This really really grossed me out. First of all, when I was growing up we never saw our parents private parts EVER. Why does everyone have to be so darned liberal about this kind of thing?? What's wrong with a 7 year old calling it a pee pee or whatever?? Do you think she'll never learn the correct terms?? I'm so tired of parents thinking they have to explain every little thing about the human body to the point that its actually weird. Why she even told us this story is beyond me.

[Trusting Jesus]

I just think that it is all part of the times we live in. Television and movies have done so much to lower standards and make public things that should be private. Then the schools do their part. Oh what times we live in.

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Nathele

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[Vickilynn]

Shalom Back,

First off, I believe the public schools are the LAST place that Christian children should be. Yes, I believe the public schools are lost and the BEST way to teach Christian children is by homeschooling them. It is our responsibility as parents to teach our children, not turn their precious and vulnerable, impressionable minds over to be raised by people who don't believe the faith and the Scriptures, even being taught by pagans, homosexuals etc.

Secondly, if you feel this strongly about it, there are plenty of things YOU can do.

Personally, I pray that these things going on in the public schools wake Christian parents up enough to pull their children OUT and start homeschooling them.

We are going to see more and more of this in the public schools as the days draw nearer to Yeshua's return, so do not be surprised when they do. And do not expect everyone else to jump on the bandwagon. Not everyone else feels the same as you - that public schools should be fought for. I don't. I believe Christian parents should be spending their time, efforts, resources and prayer into training their own children at home, or at least OUT of the public schools.

I pray that these things will cause more parents to abandon the public school system in favor of Christian education, which every child deserves.

[kittylover0991]

Dare I play devils' advocate for a minute.. or should I say, Dare I also speak from my heart??

Again, I'm in a public school and while I can't see a parent sending a Christain there, the Christian that makes it through it stronger for it... not for everyone though.

Here is my question though, what about those students who need to konw about Christ? How can we reach those students in public schools if we are labeling them taboo?

I can't tell you how much of a blesing it was to hear about two weeks ago, "What is salvation" and then have hte chance to go through the entire plan of a salvaiton with her this past week. She did'nt get saved, but teenagers are hungry.

I'm also trying to find a way to witness to my guidance counselor becauseI"ve been chickening out the past three and a half years, and I know he's not saved...

Homosexuals (not referring those who claim they are saved), Athiests, Agnostics, Gypsies (yes, gypsies), pagans, wiccans, Unitarians, Unitarians Universalists, Jews, Catholics, many trusting in their own works... those unsure who have been chewed up and spit back out by "religious folks" or by the world instead... there are SOO many who need to hear the gospel and so many who are hungry... I personally feel the best way to reach someone like these, are to be friends with them, and it builds a relationship and a trust... Don't get me wrong, I believe in going door to door, but these are people too who needt o hear the gospel.. they ARE the next generation, but think of what it'd be like if even ONE got saved and become the next Hudson Taylor? The next famous missionary, or the pastor of a church that leads thousands to the Lord??? What about those folks?? Are we forgetting that the school system isn't only teaching and indoctrinating our children, but others children who need to hear the gospel?? Just a thought.

[mathqueen]

Dare I play devils' advocate for a minute.. or should I say, Dare I also speak from my heart??

Here is my question though, what about those students who need to konw about Christ? How can we reach those students in public schools if we are labeling them taboo?

I can't tell you how much of a blesing it was to hear about two weeks ago, "What is salvation" and then have hte chance to go through the entire plan of a salvaiton with her this past week. She did'nt get saved, but teenagers are hungry.

Indeed! The public school is my mission field, and not all of us teachers are "pagans, indoctrinating the homosexual agendas" etc. There are Christian teachers out there like lambs amongst the wolves, and we are needed. Those teenage believers are needed. I totally hear what many of you are saying and understand, but it is not about giving up on the schools. I can't tell you what a blessing it is when the Christian Club meets in my room every week and I get to hear them discuss God's word and pray together and for their school. Not everything is horrible there. Just my two cents.

[Trusting Jesus]

Vickilynn, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have talked to so many parents about why they should homeschool, and their reasons are so....worldly, I guess is the best word for it. For so many years people have been conditioned to "send the kids to school." Why? Who says that they should be sent anywhere?

One of the most frequent reasons I hear is "we need two incomes". But mostly people who have said this to me have "toys" -- 2 or 3 cars, ATV's, everyone has a TV, and on and on, when the kids aren't in school they go to a babysitter, and then there is the higher income bracket with 2 incomes. I once knew a lady who said she was working so her boys could go to college. Well, there were 4 in the family and the boys were 10 and 12. They had 4 cars, 5 motorcycles, a boat, she always had new clothes, and they lived in a heavily mortgaged home. When the boys were old enough for college there was not money for that. What I am trying to say is that if Mom stays home and homeschools, you adjust your spending accordingly. There are even options if Mom really feels like she needs to bring in some money - part time work (Dad can help out), selling Tupperware, etc.

Another reason I hear a lot is that Christians believe their children will be salt and light. Well, kids want to be accepted by their peers. Some can stand up to the pressure of being "different" but most just follow the crowd. We try to teach our children to respect authority, but when a teacher is teaching things that I as a Christian don't agree with, that is very confusing to a child. When my daughter was in 2nd grade we went round and round about how the dinosuars disappeared. Her classmates and her teacher all came to the conclusion that a meteor landed millions of years ago and wiped them all out (I guess evolution evolved up to the dinosaur, then after the meteor hit it started all over again). The point is she would not listen to me and she wasn't being salt and light to anyone.

Another reason I hear is that kids need other kids. Well, what about youth group? What about Sunday school and church? There are many homeschool groups which get together for field trips.

Many parents feel that they aren't qualified. To that argument I ask "Who taught them to walk, talk, and use the toilet"?

Is it too expensive to buy materials? No. Some courses are expensive, some are less expensive, you can buy used books, there are many options.

Kittylover0991, you have a beautiful heart and have found a way to allow God to use you. Keep Him first in your heart

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Nathele

[Emily~Anne]

Good post Trusting Jesus! It is a totally unbiblical concept to allow our children to sit and be indoctrinated by public schools who teach a humanistic view on things.

[Vickilynn]

Dare I play devils' advocate for a minute.. or should I say, Dare I also speak from my heart??

Again, I'm in a public school and while I can't see a parent sending a Christain there, the Christian that makes it through it stronger for it... not for everyone though.

Here is my question though, what about those students who need to konw about Christ? How can we reach those students in public schools if we are labeling them taboo?

I can't tell you how much of a blesing it was to hear about two weeks ago, "What is salvation" and then have hte chance to go through the entire plan of a salvaiton with her this past week. She did'nt get saved, but teenagers are hungry.

I'm also trying to find a way to witness to my guidance counselor becauseI"ve been chickening out the past three and a half years, and I know he's not saved...

Homosexuals (not referring those who claim they are saved), Athiests, Agnostics, Gypsies (yes, gypsies), pagans, wiccans, Unitarians, Unitarians Universalists, Jews, Catholics, many trusting in their own works... those unsure who have been chewed up and spit back out by "religious folks" or by the world instead... there are SOO many who need to hear the gospel and so many who are hungry... I personally feel the best way to reach someone like these, are to be friends with them, and it builds a relationship and a trust... Don't get me wrong, I believe in going door to door, but these are people too who needt o hear the gospel.. they ARE the next generation, but think of what it'd be like if even ONE got saved and become the next Hudson Taylor? The next famous missionary, or the pastor of a church that leads thousands to the Lord??? What about those folks?? Are we forgetting that the school system isn't only teaching and indoctrinating our children, but others children who need to hear the gospel?? Just a thought.

Shalom Kitty,

Kitty, what grade are you in?

I assume you are in the higher grades, maybe you are in high school? If so, you are equipped to share the Gospel if you are a strong Believer. And if G-d has called you to that Mission field, you should go - and minister.

However, what about the younger ones? The ones who are from Christian homes, but still young and vulnerable and can be shaken and destroyed by the things that are put into their tender spirits and impressionable minds. What about them? Do we just send them on the bus and hope for the best? NO.

As a parent, I cannot in good conscience, turn my precious gift from G-d over for someone else to raise. That's what it amounts to. Sending my child off to be put under someone else's rules, beliefs and anything else they want to put into my child. That is not what I should be doing as a steward of this precious gift.

What about the next missionary? What if he were MY son, but because I did not invest myself in his education by raising him according to the Scriptures, he did not walk on that path to become a missionary? G-d gave us these children for a reason and sending them off to be indoctrinated by the world and anti-Biblical beliefs is not it.

Also, I am a child of public school and I know first-hand what it's like. It is 1000 times worse now than when I attended and believe me, it was bad then. I will not subject my children to what I was subjected to. I have to stand before Jesus and account for how we raised our children. And sending them to public school is not what I believe is what He wanted us to do.