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It is not written for you to pray to the Holy Spirit because praying to spirits is of the world.

There - you did it again!

Your words here equate the Holy Spirit with just another Spirit rather than the Lord God Almighty.

Either He is God and is to be treated as such, or He is not.

Honestly, what I hear from you is to treat the Holy Spirit like a third wheel.

Oh, yes you say He is a person, and He leads and guides you, but you are insist on completely ignoring Him and treating Him like the angels rather than as God.

If the Holy Spirit is God, then when I speak to "God," why am I not speaking to the Holy Spirit as well as to the Son and to the Father?

Why do you insist that when I call on the Holy Spirit that a demon answers?

You are not reading that quote properly to respond to it the way you did.

There are other spirits in the world and the world does pray to these other spirits. You have to know that. That is a rudiment of the world. By praying to the Holy Spirit... it is the action that is a rudiment of the world.

If the Holy Spirit is in you....He knows what is going on because He is in you. Jesus who searches the heart, knows the mind of the Spirit and thus is how the Holy Spirit intercedes indirectly without groanings uttered hence no sound because Jesus is the mediator between God and man and being ascended... He is the One to be praying to and even to the Father in Heaven. We rest in Jesus' promise that the Holy Spirit is in us thus fulfilling the role of the Comforter. To follow Jesus means to have a relationship with Him to learn of Him and thus find rest for your souls.

It's like looking at your siamese twin brother and he says.. "don't pray to me.. I know what's going on. Look higher." A very poor analogy, but I don't know how to get it across that the Holy Spirit is with you all the time so pray to the One Whom has ascended.. Jesus Christ the Lord.

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It is not written for you to pray to the Holy Spirit because praying to spirits is of the world.

There - you did it again!

Your words here equate the Holy Spirit with just another Spirit rather than the Lord God Almighty.

Either He is God and is to be treated as such, or He is not.

Honestly, what I hear from you is to treat the Holy Spirit like a third wheel.

Oh, yes you say He is a person, and He leads and guides you, but you are insist on completely ignoring Him and treating Him like the angels rather than as God.

If the Holy Spirit is God, then when I speak to "God," why am I not speaking to the Holy Spirit as well as to the Son and to the Father?

Why do you insist that when I call on the Holy Spirit that a demon answers?

I would like to know the same? When I am talking to God, I am not just speaking to the Father alone, but the the Triune God. I ask for more of God's Life which is His Holy Spirit, then how shall a demon enter. That would make God unfaithful. Jesus tells us what ever we ask in His name it will be given to us. And I would think that it is God's desire to give us more of Himself. Do you think that you are filled with the full measure of the gift of Christ?

Remember your words in the other post. "No one is infallible, not you not me". Yet you speak as if you are. Frankly brother your words are not seasoned and they are not Life to me. Christ speaks life, and frankly what you have cause here in not only division but looks such as these :):33::emot-hug:. This is not Christ' desire for His people. And if one came speaking Christ I believe that the Christ in me would see the life behind what they are saying, even if there were something left out.

I love you dear brother, but as I cautioned you before, be careful....for what measure you mete it will be measured unto you.

Why is it that no one sees the point about the rudiment of the world is praying to spirits? Mediums call up ghosts, new age channellers call up spirit guides, American Indians call up animal spirit guides and some call for the "great spirit" to commune with it in such a way that when they were introduced and taken to alcohol, it was because it related to those experiences? It is the action of praying to the Holy Spirit which is after the rudiment of the world. I know God does not want people praying to the Holy Spirit especially when He is in you thus when one does do that to the Holy Spirit, they ae giving the appearance of going after the rudiment of the world and not after Christ. How can one abstain from the appearance of all evil if one prays as the world does towards the spirit when the Holy Spirit is in us as promised according to the faith?


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It is not written for you to pray to the Holy Spirit because praying to spirits is of the world.

There - you did it again!

Your words here equate the Holy Spirit with just another Spirit rather than the Lord God Almighty.

Either He is God and is to be treated as such, or He is not.

Honestly, what I hear from you is to treat the Holy Spirit like a third wheel.

Oh, yes you say He is a person, and He leads and guides you, but you are insist on completely ignoring Him and treating Him like the angels rather than as God.

If the Holy Spirit is God, then when I speak to "God," why am I not speaking to the Holy Spirit as well as to the Son and to the Father?

Why do you insist that when I call on the Holy Spirit that a demon answers?

I would like to know the same? When I am talking to God, I am not just speaking to the Father alone, but the the Triune God. I ask for more of God's Life which is His Holy Spirit, then how shall a demon enter. That would make God unfaithful. Jesus tells us what ever we ask in His name it will be given to us. And I would think that it is God's desire to give us more of Himself. Do you think that you are filled with the full measure of the gift of Christ?

Remember your words in the other post. "No one is infallible, not you not me". Yet you speak as if you are. Frankly brother your words are not seasoned and they are not Life to me. Christ speaks life, and frankly what you have cause here in not only division but looks such as these :):33::emot-hug:. This is not Christ' desire for His people. And if one came speaking Christ I believe that the Christ in me would see the life behind what they are saying, even if there were something left out.

I love you dear brother, but as I cautioned you before, be careful....for what measure you mete it will be measured unto you.

Why is it that no one sees the point about the rudiment of the world is praying to spirits? Mediums call up ghosts, new age channellers call up spirit guides, American Indians call up animal spirit guides and some call for the "great spirit" to commune with it in such a way that when they were introduced and taken to alcohol, it was because it related to those experiences? It is the action of praying to the Holy Spirit which is after the rudiment of the world. I know God does not want people praying to the Holy Spirit especially when He is in you thus when one does do that to the Holy Spirit, they ae giving the appearance of going after the rudiment of the world and not after Christ. How can one abstain from the appearance of all evil if one prays as the world does towards the spirit when the Holy Spirit is in us as promised according to the faith?

And you pray to a Spirit too....for in fact God is a Spirit!


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Why is it that no one sees the point about the rudiment of the world is praying to spirits? Mediums call up ghosts, new age channellers call up spirit guides, American Indians call up animal spirit guides and some call for the "great spirit" to commune with it in such a way that when they were introduced and taken to alcohol, it was because it related to those experiences? It is the action of praying to the Holy Spirit which is after the rudiment of the world. I know God does not want people praying to the Holy Spirit especially when He is in you thus when one does do that to the Holy Spirit, they ae giving the appearance of going after the rudiment of the world and not after Christ. How can one abstain from the appearance of all evil if one prays as the world does towards the spirit when the Holy Spirit is in us as promised according to the faith?

Because you are putting the Spirit of God on par with angels and demons - and that is wrong beyond comprehension.

The Holy Spirit is not "just another spirit." He is God - one with the Son, one with the Father.


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Hi Cobalt,

Matthew 12:31-32 31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

My point is we are called to test the spirits so if one uses that verse above as to never testing the spirits, then how can anyone discern the Holy Spirit from that which is in the world as in greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world?

Romans 8:26-27 26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express . 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.

AND that is why I use the KJV!!!!! One little word and BAM! WHO knows the mind of the Spirit? It is that WHO that makes intercessions according to the WILL OF GOD!!!!!

Romans 8: 26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered (hence no sound therefore indirectly how...? Read on...). 27And he (Jesus) that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he (Jesus) maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. KJV ALL THE WAY!!!! That is a definite statement because of this verse!

1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Matthew 18: 19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

In the midst of them in Greek means inbetween!!! Your version practically takes away Jesus being the mediator between God and man to the Spirit!!!!! HOW? The Spirit makes intercessions with groans NOT UTTERED!!!! It is by the Holy Spirit being in us that Jesus Christ that searcheth the hearts ... knoweth the mind of the Spirit BECAUSE HE is the one making intercessions ACCORDING to the WILL of God!

Man.

Nobody gonna hear the Truth now because of all these errant versions. Nobody hears how the commitment to follow Christ is not what Jesus wants us to do because other versions have used the word commit to be something a man should be doing as in "I will" as opposed to entrust in the KJV as in "He will" in well doing in keeping our souls in 1 Peter 4:19.

NOW THIS!!!

Well, thanks Cobalt for finally showing me why nobody was listening... AGAIN all because of errant versions and not the KJV!!!!!

For all you PEOPLE out there that sees nothing wrong with the other versions and you prefer it over the KJV........ man if you don't see why now you should stick with the KJV.... hoo boy.

Come Lord Jesus!! My brothers and sisters are in trouble!!! HELP JESUS HELP!!!!

Okay. Calming down. Jesus is Lord. He told me this would happen. Oh well.

I'm confident that the Lord shall finish the work He has begun in us... even for those left behind at the rapture for the Father shall chasten every child He receives.

Since no correction can be made by scriptures to defend and keep the faith, I shall leave Worthy Board.

One final note....

Jude 1: 20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

That is still IN the Holy Ghost as in worshipping IN the Holy Ghost and praying IN the Holy Ghost.

NOT TO

Let alone OUT of the Holy Ghost since so many are calling for Him to fall on them again!!!!

Leaving soon.


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Hi Godslove,

And you pray to a Spirit too....for in fact God is a Spirit!

The Holy Spirit is God. But no.. you don't pray to the Holy Spirit, but because of errant bible versions, no one is going to see the truth in the KJV, because they don't want to use the KJV.

I'll be leaving since I am done sharing here. The few that knows what I have been sharing in regards to our faith... the Lord Jesus, the Good Shepherd shall continue to lead them.

Other forces are at work in knocking me off of the internet, but it seemed so strange how the Lord revealed the reason why most was not heeding & it was from what Cobalt has shared because of errant Bible versions & it was after I told one of the moderator that I was leaving soon because of forces at work in knocking me off of the internet. I told the moderator that Jesus is Lord and here I find another reason for leaving... errant Bible versions. Time to let go.


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Why is it that no one sees the point about the rudiment of the world is praying to spirits? Mediums call up ghosts, new age channellers call up spirit guides, American Indians call up animal spirit guides and some call for the "great spirit" to commune with it in such a way that when they were introduced and taken to alcohol, it was because it related to those experiences? It is the action of praying to the Holy Spirit which is after the rudiment of the world. I know God does not want people praying to the Holy Spirit especially when He is in you thus when one does do that to the Holy Spirit, they ae giving the appearance of going after the rudiment of the world and not after Christ. How can one abstain from the appearance of all evil if one prays as the world does towards the spirit when the Holy Spirit is in us as promised according to the faith?

Because you are putting the Spirit of God on par with angels and demons - and that is wrong beyond comprehension.

The Holy Spirit is not "just another spirit." He is God - one with the Son, one with the Father.

Bye bye, nebula!!! Bye bye Worthy Board!!! I really do LOVE ya!!

O appear, Lord Jesus!!! Appear!!!! Let thy LIGHT shine forth and make the clouds of deceptions between You and them be GONE!!!!


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to poor in spirit

it seems to me you are preaching from the gospel of poor in spirit and are teling us to get rid of our own personal bible we payed for and only by the king james bible as its the only one that is write well preach i have the new international study bible and the new spirit filled bible as well how about writting then to the publishers and asking the publishers who print the bible in many diffrent langauges to stop this and only print the king james version and while you are at i preach write a letter print it out to i dont know how many christian books stores that are not just wear you live but also in every single nation and state you want all other bibles to be takken of their shelves and only sell the kings james version

hay i was given the old kings james version when i was in jail by an old warden who passed me his spare one as he thought i needed this more than he did he did not have to give me his bible but he got one of the gaurds to get me and take me to his office as i do not know what this old warden saw in me i was a messed up young man and he just said damien i want you to have this book and then when you are finished and have served your time leave this in the cell for the next inmate with a note which is what i did preach

i found the book you like to state from which is the gospel of poor in spirit a bit to hard to understand as it does not line up with the 2 bibles i have

you are the one who needs help preach not us and i would ask that you stop mocking the holy spirit preach and preadhing to us on this topic have you got a degree from bible collage saying that you are able to teach on this topic ? have you been given permission to challange us ?

i feel sorry for you poor in spirit as by your stance alone and coming against what i hold on to and belive in it shows me how imature you realy are poor in spirit tel me how do you sleep at night when god corrects you who or what are you hearing from poor in spirit as i feel its not god who you are hearing from my brother

i am praying for your salvation poor in spirit as you are one mixed up soul my brother as i said you should learn to form healthy relationships with your brothers and sisters in the lord am i getting to you am i gettig to you ? as by what you have left in the last few posts poor in spirit it does not offend me at all to what i read poor in spirit but boy you are going to encounter god and i pray when god does pull you up i pray that you will be open and not so negative poor in spirit

that is all i am going to say to you i wish you the best for the futer and in all that you do

peace


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Because you are putting the Spirit of God on par with angels and demons - and that is wrong beyond comprehension.

The Holy Spirit is not "just another spirit." He is God - one with the Son, one with the Father.

Bye bye, nebula!!! Bye bye Worthy Board!!! I really do LOVE ya!!

O appear, Lord Jesus!!! Appear!!!! Let thy LIGHT shine forth and make the clouds of deceptions between You and them be GONE!!!!

I went through a time when I was a part of a small group of believers that thought we had this great revelation from God that was above everyone else, too - all believers are deceived but us - so I know how strong this kind of deception can be. The fact that you won't tell angels4u what group or doctrine you belong to confirms that you consider yourself separate form all other believers.

I find it sad that you do not understand the oneness of God, how when One speaks, they all speak, and when you pray to One, you pray to all (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) - else they cannot be One.

OK - farewell, and I pray your deception be driven away.


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Would you consider it a sin to even ask the Holy Spirit to tell you more about Jesus?

:P

Dear poorinspirit

Quench Not The Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit And The Holy Bible Is The Teacher Of The Church Not You Not Me.

Have You Not Heard, The Holy Ghost Is God?

What Jesus Said.... The Spirit Of Truth - God's Voice

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you." John 16:7-15

The Spirit Prays For Us

"Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered." Romans 8:26

The Holy Spirit Seals Us

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise," Ephesians 1:13

The Holy Ghost Is God

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7

Writing The Words Of Christ On Our Hearts

"Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart." 2 Corinthians 3:3

A Clear Heads Up For All Of Us

"And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Ephesians 4:30

poorinspirit, The Holy Bible And The Holy Spirit Is The Teacher Of The Church Not You Not Me.

Worship God In Truth And In Spirit Instead Of Bashing The Brethren Because Of Some Imagined Flaw In Worship Songs And In Prayer.

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matthew 7:1-2

Do You Really Desire To Lord It Over A Brother And To Attempt to Stifle His Prayers To The Living God (The Father, The Son And The Holy Ghost)

"But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted." Mathew 23:11-12

When You Hurl Damnation Down Upon Beloved damo1 And Other Christians, Please Remember The God Who Loves Them So Hears You.

"Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee." Deuteronomy 23:5

I Forgive You Dear Brother And I Forgive The One I Think Is Your Teacher In This Attack Upon The Worship Of God's Kids.

If He Is The One Who's Voice I Hear In Your Posts, This Is A Brother Consumed With Hurting The Beloved Of The KING And Denying The Power Of The Holy Ghost And Stomping Out The Joy Of The LORD Wherever He Detects It. He Can Not Bear The Worship Of Other Folk He Has Not Given Prior Approval Of. I Fell Shame For This Brother When I Hear His Vitriol Poured Out Upon God's Little Ones.

"Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings." 1 Thessalonians 5:19-20

He Does Not Even Know The Anointing Has Left Him.

"And she said, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times before, and shake myself. And he wist not that the LORD was departed from him." Judges 16:20

poorinspirit, My Spirit Weeps For You And For Your Teachers Who Turn From The Love Of The Lord Jesus And Who Incessantly Belittle And Mock The Power Of The Holy Spirit In The Lives And Worship Of God's Kids. What a lost To The Battle For Souls.

"Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

Rejoice evermore.

Pray without ceasing.

In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you." 1 Thessalonians 5:14-18

Thank You Lord

1940 by Bessie Sykes

Thank You Lord for saving my soul.

Thank You Lord, for making me whole.

Thank You Lord for giving to me.

Thy great salvation, so rich and free.

http://www.christianmusicweb.com/songs/All...tion_medley.txt

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

I Love You, Lord

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    • Abraham and Issac: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 2
      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this series the next obvious sign of the resurrection in the Old Testament is the sign of Isaac and Abraham.

      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

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