arunangelo Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/30/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 To be saved we must believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I disagree....acts done with or without love will not save you. To be saved one must believe that Jesus is the Son of G-d and was raised from the dead through G-ds power. You must accept that you are a sinner and believe that our Lord shed His blood to cover your sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Horn Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 178 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 To be saved we must believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backontrack Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,213 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 185 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/10/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 To be saved we must believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Horn Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 178 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 To be saved we must believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 If one wants to be saved there is only one way and that is to come to the end of yourself and yield your heart and life to the Lord Jesus Christ as one has to realize they need the Lord and can't make it on there on they have to humble themselves in the presence of God and acknowledge there need and call on the Lord Jesus Christ and they will be saved. Romans 10 but so many never surrender their heart and acknowledge their need for salvation. OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Horn Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 178 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 I agree that act of love for God and our neighbors is the works written about in the Bible. But I do not agree that they are the cause of our salvation but they are the result of our salvation. So I ask of arunangelo: JB JB, The works that the bible speaks is not just for the love of God and our neighbors. Sometimes that's what people think it is. That we take soup to them when they are sick, etc. Our works is our obedience to the gospel of Christ and keeping the commandments in the NT. I am obedient to God because of my love for Him not from fear. If you are obedient for some other reason I would be interested in know what that is. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryt Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,230 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted November 22, 2007 We are saved by the sovereign will and power of God alone. We were elect/chosen before the foundation of the world. We were born again and then were able to see the kingdom of heaven. We were given the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord through faith which also is the gift of God. God chooses to save some and the rest are left to their just rewards. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan4257 Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 421 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 We are saved by the sovereign will and power of God alone. From where I stand, respecting all the answers given above, salvation/redemption is not complicated, nor is the subject of 'works. Hebrews 9 makes things quite clear: "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." In the OT, as a temporary measure which had to be continually repeated, sacrifices were made, and those who with a clean heart identified themselves with those sacrifices were cleansed of their sins. In the NT, as it says, salvation is obtained once and for all by those who with a clean heart identify themselves with the once and for all sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That's it. Done and finished. Then, and not before, those who identify with and accept in spirit and in truth that they have obtained eternal redemption by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, will find find themselves opening up to the love of God, and the eyes of that love will find them seeing all sorts of need and oppression around them which they want to do something about. That's how it seems to me, thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Horn Posted November 22, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 178 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2007 We are saved by the sovereign will and power of God alone. From where I stand, respecting all the answers given above, salvation/redemption is not complicated, nor is the subject of 'works. Hebrews 9 makes things quite clear: "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." In the OT, as a temporary measure which had to be continually repeated, sacrifices were made, and those who with a clean heart identified themselves with those sacrifices were cleansed of their sins. In the NT, as it says, salvation is obtained once and for all by those who with a clean heart identify themselves with the once and for all sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That's it. Done and finished. Then, and not before, those who identify with and accept in spirit and in truth that they have obtained eternal redemption by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, will find find themselves opening up to the love of God, and the eyes of that love will find them seeing all sorts of need and oppression around them which they want to do something about. That's how it seems to me, thank God. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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