God and cigars

[dgolvach]

I really am not all that into "vise". God did free me from lust problems but one sin area obviously is not all he has to deal with when it comes to me. I want to say that I have no position on weather smoking is a sin. I guess it might be but I'm not sure. I don't think smokers lose their salvation because they refuse to stop. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do love premium cigars. Monte Cristo Robustos are my favorite. Heres the deal...The Lord told me to knock it off with the cigars because I was using them to sooth me and he wants to be my soother. I don't think he would of minded if I just sparked one on occasion out of sheer enjoyment but I smoke one every day. Like President Clinton, I don't inhale. I really don't. Its stange because I was actually touched by the fact that I was told no because it helps me know that God cares about what I do. I really don't mind so much if God is strict with me as long as I know he loves me.

Its a strange sensation but I find a sorta rest and sence of belonging from Gods domination over me. I do know that he has the right to tell me what I can or can't do. Admittedly, my flesh dosen't like it and this can cause a struggle if I don't seek him daily but another part of me smiles at being told what to do. I feel as though I have a parent and with this comes a sorta security that I didn't have before. Therefore ...my soul feels better than before.

Does this make sence? Am I a sicko masocist because I enjoy being dominated by God? It really makes me feel loved by him even though my flesh is still in the humidor. Cigars are probably not a good idea considering my health problems either. I think I might feel like he didn't care if he said "yes...Dan..keep lighting them" I certainly don't want my sons to smoke.

Something inside of me likes being told no by God. Anyone else here ever experienced this or is this unique?

Dan

[givennewname]

I really am not all that into "vise". God did free me from lust problems but one sin area obviously is not all he has to deal with when it comes to me. I want to say that I have no position on weather smoking is a sin. I guess it might be but I'm not sure. I don't think smokers lose their salvation because they refuse to stop. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do love premium cigars. Monte Cristo Robustos are my favorite. Heres the deal...The Lord told me to knock it off with the cigars because I was using them to sooth me and he wants to be my soother. I don't think he would of minded if I just sparked one on occasion out of sheer enjoyment but I smoke one every day. Like President Clinton, I don't inhale. I really don't. Its stange because I was actually touched by the fact that I was told no because it helps me know that God cares about what I do. I really don't mind so much if God is strict with me as long as I know he loves me.

Its a strange sensation but I find a sorta rest and sence of belonging from Gods domination over me. I do know that he has the right to tell me what I can or can't do. Admittedly, my flesh dosen't like it and this can cause a struggle if I don't seek him daily but another part of me smiles at being told what to do. I feel as though I have a parent and with this comes a sorta security that I didn't have before. Therefore ...my soul feels better than before.

Does this make sence? Am I a sicko masocist because I enjoy being dominated by God? It really makes me feel loved by him even though my flesh is still in the humidor. Cigars are probably not a good idea considering my health problems either. I think I might feel like he didn't care if he said "yes...Dan..keep lighting them" I certainly don't want my sons to smoke.

Something inside of me likes being told no by God. Anyone else here ever experienced this or is this unique?

Dan

Hey brother Dan,

Did God specially equipped you with chimneys??

Even if you don't inhale, cigars still give oral and nasopharyngeal cancers and those things smell bad!

New creature

[NEVINN]

Instead of giving you a religious answer i am going to give you logical one - if you have an addication it is a sin if you have an occasional cigar and a drink ( occasional) this is not sinning - further a clean souls is not about the health but about the spirit. Oh yes it is not good for you - but then compare it to white lies.....is it good or is it not? Who am i to judge your transgressions when i have my own...

[Leonard]

I really am not all that into "vise". God did free me from lust problems but one sin area obviously is not all he has to deal with when it comes to me. I want to say that I have no position on weather smoking is a sin. I guess it might be but I'm not sure. I don't think smokers lose their salvation because they refuse to stop. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do love premium cigars. Monte Cristo Robustos are my favorite. Heres the deal...The Lord told me to knock it off with the cigars because I was using them to sooth me and he wants to be my soother. I don't think he would of minded if I just sparked one on occasion out of sheer enjoyment but I smoke one every day. Like President Clinton, I don't inhale. I really don't. Its stange because I was actually touched by the fact that I was told no because it helps me know that God cares about what I do. I really don't mind so much if God is strict with me as long as I know he loves me.

Its a strange sensation but I find a sorta rest and sence of belonging from Gods domination over me. I do know that he has the right to tell me what I can or can't do. Admittedly, my flesh dosen't like it and this can cause a struggle if I don't seek him daily but another part of me smiles at being told what to do. I feel as though I have a parent and with this comes a sorta security that I didn't have before. Therefore ...my soul feels better than before.

Does this make sence? Am I a sicko masocist because I enjoy being dominated by God? It really makes me feel loved by him even though my flesh is still in the humidor. Cigars are probably not a good idea considering my health problems either. I think I might feel like he didn't care if he said "yes...Dan..keep lighting them" I certainly don't want my sons to smoke.

Something inside of me likes being told no by God. Anyone else here ever experienced this or is this unique?

Dan

The Monte Cristo Robusto IS a good cigar, but probably if you had been smoking Henry Clays, the Lord would not have inhibited you! By the by..... how is your health of late, Brother Dan? I often think of you prayerfully.

[Scarletprayers]

Dan, I smoke.........so I have no comment on this issue. But, I do want to say, its so good to see you back like this! Prayers have been answered!

[Marnie]

Hey, I induldge in a good Cuban from time to time. So far, no word from the Lord on quitting. But, if the Lord has told you to, best do it completely. I'll be happy to buy whatever you have left.

[tsth]

Well, I don't know about the cigars, but what a beautiful expression of a child honoring and loving his Father!

Dear Dan,

Your posts are so encouraging.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[kittylover0991]

I really am not all that into "vise". God did free me from lust problems but one sin area obviously is not all he has to deal with when it comes to me. I want to say that I have no position on weather smoking is a sin. I guess it might be but I'm not sure. I don't think smokers lose their salvation because they refuse to stop. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do love premium cigars. Monte Cristo Robustos are my favorite. Heres the deal...The Lord told me to knock it off with the cigars because I was using them to sooth me and he wants to be my soother. I don't think he would of minded if I just sparked one on occasion out of sheer enjoyment but I smoke one every day. Like President Clinton, I don't inhale. I really don't. Its stange because I was actually touched by the fact that I was told no because it helps me know that God cares about what I do. I really don't mind so much if God is strict with me as long as I know he loves me.

Its a strange sensation but I find a sorta rest and sence of belonging from Gods domination over me. I do know that he has the right to tell me what I can or can't do. Admittedly, my flesh dosen't like it and this can cause a struggle if I don't seek him daily but another part of me smiles at being told what to do. I feel as though I have a parent and with this comes a sorta security that I didn't have before. Therefore ...my soul feels better than before.

Does this make sence? Am I a sicko masocist because I enjoy being dominated by God? It really makes me feel loved by him even though my flesh is still in the humidor. Cigars are probably not a good idea considering my health problems either. I think I might feel like he didn't care if he said "yes...Dan..keep lighting them" I certainly don't want my sons to smoke.

Something inside of me likes being told no by God. Anyone else here ever experienced this or is this unique?

Dan

Hey Dan!!

Praise the Lord!!!!

No, you're not weird and this is not strange at all!!! Yes, smoking is wrong, if nothign else, it harms your body and we are told to protect our bodies, we are to protect our "temples", which is part of the reason why drinking is wrong.. yes, even the occasional.

What a blessing that you're listening to the Holy Spirit and what an encouragement that you're doing somethign about it...

and yeah, like a parent, he corrects us because he cares! So many people can't see that and they look on the negative and say "Oh, because im a Chrsitain I can't do this and I can't do that. It's just not fair!!" but in actuality, it IS fair, and He loves us so much!

Praise the Lord!!! Just a small thing before I go on a long rabbit trail, the bible says taht we can be free from the dominion of sin, and I can't say from experience, what a blessing it is to be free from sin day by day.... there's somethign sweet about each new day and when we get those things out of our lives, while I'm not sure where to find this in the bible, it seems you feel closer to God... His compassions are new every morning Isaiah said by the way. God's so good, isn't he?

Praise the Lord and great job!

[Smalcald]

I really am not all that into "vise". God did free me from lust problems but one sin area obviously is not all he has to deal with when it comes to me. I want to say that I have no position on weather smoking is a sin. I guess it might be but I'm not sure. I don't think smokers lose their salvation because they refuse to stop. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do love premium cigars. Monte Cristo Robustos are my favorite. Heres the deal...The Lord told me to knock it off with the cigars because I was using them to sooth me and he wants to be my soother. I don't think he would of minded if I just sparked one on occasion out of sheer enjoyment but I smoke one every day. Like President Clinton, I don't inhale. I really don't. Its stange because I was actually touched by the fact that I was told no because it helps me know that God cares about what I do. I really don't mind so much if God is strict with me as long as I know he loves me.

Its a strange sensation but I find a sorta rest and sence of belonging from Gods domination over me. I do know that he has the right to tell me what I can or can't do. Admittedly, my flesh dosen't like it and this can cause a struggle if I don't seek him daily but another part of me smiles at being told what to do. I feel as though I have a parent and with this comes a sorta security that I didn't have before. Therefore ...my soul feels better than before.

Does this make sence? Am I a sicko masocist because I enjoy being dominated by God? It really makes me feel loved by him even though my flesh is still in the humidor. Cigars are probably not a good idea considering my health problems either. I think I might feel like he didn't care if he said "yes...Dan..keep lighting them" I certainly don't want my sons to smoke.

Something inside of me likes being told no by God. Anyone else here ever experienced this or is this unique?

Dan

Well I know what you mean and self denial for Christ is good.

But it brings up another topic and that is what we enjoy and how we enjoy things. God gave us a plentiful earth full of things that we can and should enjoy; does that mean we are addicted to something because we enjoy it? I like coffee and no doubt I am addicted to coffee, but I don't find that a sin in scripture, but maybe I am wrong? It seems like we could make ourselves nuts going down this path.

Scripture is clear about sins of the flesh, things like lust, drunkenness, envy, anger, pride, adultery, and on and on. But simple things that we enjoy in a healthy way I don't have a problem with. People in scripture often were shown enjoying life and the gifts God gave them. For me to your question it would seem that you could indeed enjoy an occasional good cigar. Certianly not inside where it would stink up your house and your family would likely protest, and certianly only occasionally for heatlh reasons. But I just don't find a reason not to sit back and enjoy a fine Cigar on a nice evening and give God thanks for that evening and that cigar.

[Marnie]

But I just don't find a reason not to sit back and enjoy a fine Cigar on a nice evening and give God thanks for that evening and that cigar.

Then you have never enjoyed a Bolivar Belicoso Fino or a fine San Cristobal de la H. La Punta.