Gay and lesbian ministers

[salt and light]

Work in Progress,

God Bless you. Your opinion is very popular with me,and I'm blessed by your message,and my wife says

[His son]

The problem with the naysayers is that they start with their opinion (private iterpretation a Bible no no) and then they read a verse, that seems to supports their opinion and go no farther. To Get God's Truth one has to use the whole Bible, and when one does that it is very obious that God uses women pretty much the same as He does men. Not just as teachers but in all ministries. This is also obvious on an experiential basis if one would go to women lead ministries prayed up in The Spirit to be truly knowledgeable about what goes on in them.

[Andrew007]

staying off topic...

Look around in your churches. What is the ratio of women to men? Maybe women are preaching because the men aren't willing.

I don't have any problem, biblically, with women preaching/ teaching God's word. I don't think it's biblical for a woman to be a pastor or in some other authority over a man, but there is kingdom work to be done and in every church I've been in, there are far more women than men.

Thats right!

[irishcowboy]

what is a teacher?

what is a preacher?

what is a deacon?

what is an elder?

what is a trustee?

what is an evangelist?

what is a missionary?

what is a minister?

and what is their functions?

what is their job discriptions?

what is their prerequisits?

[Guest kitkat]

I'm certainly not trying to frighten anybody by my so called misinterpretation of scripture. God says what He means and means what He says. Study your bible a little more. My wife even says that women shouldn't preach,and women in my church even say that. A preacher on a local radio station was talking about that recently. The problem with christians today is, they smorgersboard God's word, they pick and choose what they like and forget the rest of what they don't like.

[Guest mcm42]

Hey Kit Kat... well put! I agree with you...

I would be interested in knowing what Joyce Meyer has to say about this

[Guest kitkat]

Just to clarify I think it's fine for women to preach... Not fine to hold leadership... there's a difference... to me anyway.

Hey mcm!

Can you clarify what the difference is...to you?

I'm in agreement with you all the way about homosexuals having ANY type of leadership position, especially in the church.

God Bless! :t:

Kitkat

[Guest mcm42]

Decision making... as apposed to teaching. That's the difference. Anybody can teach, and with all honesty anybody can make decisions. But, I don't know why, but i believe that God would have men lead, and women under that leadership.

God has a hierarchy of power, in no way was God the father less valuble than Christ the Son, Submiting takes just as much strength as leading does. As far as decision making goes, I think man should have the final word, not because women are inferior, but because that is how God has set up His people.

That is how I see it... Hope that clarifies my side

[JesusisGod2]

Salt and Light, I totally agree with you. God made men and women differently, each with their unique and special roles. It is such a PLEASURE to be a woman the way God intended. We have our own unique and special and very important ministries in the body. But, unfortunately, pride has gotten into some women's hearts and they can not stand the thought of something they "can't" do. It is the age old problem - God said not to do it, so naturally the person immediately wants to do it.

I will never understand women who believe it is some sort of put down that the female was not appointed as the head, the instructor, the Pastor, the teacher etc. If only many women would embrace the wonderful ministry that God has given them, so much more would be accomplished in the body. But they are busy insisting they are 'just as good as men', 'God is no respector of persons', they insist they have a gift and have been called - and all the while, their true gifts and callings are left undone due to their stubborness.

One particular pet peeve of mine is the excuse/rationalization "well, there are no men who can/will/are able to do it/take the class. Oh, okay. So it's okay to go against God when there doesn't seem to be any other way? LOL

I'm sure my very strong opinion will be unpopular but, hey, it won't be the first time.

Praise The Lord!

Work in progress, that is a very uplifting testamony Sister, and I am in total agreement, God made us man and woman "make and female created He them" Gen1:27

My wife and I have had to learn this truth , and what I mean is just what you have said, God has created us to fill different roles, different responsibilties, and of course different functions. When we learned this, or should I say accepted this (we are still learning) we have never been happier.

My wife will tell you the same thing, she is happy she is a woman (and so am I ) she is a very beautiful loving person, I love her so much. And she feels like you do, as a matter of fact I almost asked her if she posted this!

Praise God Sis.

Also mcm, that is a very good post you have posted a page or two back, good insight brother.

[Guest kitkat]

God has a hierarchy of power, in no way was God the father less valuble than Christ the Son, Submiting takes just as much strength as leading does. As far as decision making goes, I think man should have the final word, not because women are inferior, but because that is how God has set up His people.

Thanks mcm,

The only leadership position I have a problem with when it comes to women is holding office as President of the United States.

IMO, heaven forbid that Hillary Clinton should EVER be President or Vice President, but then again it wouldn't bother me if she just fell of the face of the earth.

I agree with your quote. That is how God designed it, however I will say that sometimes it takes more strength to submit than it does to lead.

God Bless!

Kitkat