Condemnation or Grace?

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

We have some posters here who do nothing but criticize and call "SINNER" to other Believers and preach doom and gloom and preach condemnation.

I wanted to post the TRUTH from Scripture that G-d's grace drowns out all those critics and accusers.

AND, we need to remember that the ENEMY is the accuser of the Brethren, not Jesus and the Accuser will be thrown down! Revelation 12:10

I pray you are ENCOURAGED by these Scriptures!

Romans 8

1There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

For the law of the Spirit of life(B) has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

31What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

32) He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?

33Who shall bring any charge against God

[Candi770]

We have the Holy Spirit to bring correction to us, if we don't listen to Him, we only damage ourselves. But nothing is like someone who is led by the Holy Spirit, by word of knowledge helping me to wake up-because when God does it-He gives us hope.

Not everyone listens to God, and some have their own motives that are not Godly. Condemnation is not of God.

God brings correction and gives us His strength to overcome sin.

Jesus is so good!

Blessins

Candi

[Vickilynn]

We have the Holy Spirit to bring correction to us, if we don't listen to Him, we only damage ourselves. But nothing is like someone who is led by the Holy Spirit, by word of knowledge helping me to wake up-because when God does it-He gives us hope.

Not everyone listens to God, and some have their own motives that are not Godly. Condemnation is not of God.

God brings correction and gives us His strength to overcome sin.

Jesus is so good!

Blessins

Candi

Shalom Candi,

Sorry, we don't NEED anyone else pointing fingers at us and calling us sinners. The Holy Spirit speaks loudly enough and His motives are pure.

When someone focuses on sin, sin, sin and ignores G-d's grace and mercy, there is something wrong with their "message". I personally believe that many who claim to have a "Word" actually do not, but rather enjoy pointing fingers at other Believers. But, that's just my opinion.

The point is of this thread is, G-d's Word is righteous and His Holy Spirit can lead us and correct us if we need correcting. Those on the other end of the screen cannot see the heart or see the lives of those they are accusing of sin. Those who feel they are commissioned to do the work of the Holy Spirit need to read the above Scriptures to get a balanced message.

[Vickilynn]

Hebrews 10:22-25 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. 25 Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

And hyper grace being taught in this forum and in our churches that says we can continue in sin without consequence because we profess Christ.

Be careful, you are now assigning motives to hearts and may be bearing false witness about this Ministry.

Peace,

Dave

[tsth]

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

1 Thess. 4:1 Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3 It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.

9 Now about brotherly love we do not need to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love each other. 10 And in fact, you do love all the brothers throughout Macedonia. Yet we urge you, brothers, to do so more and more.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Vickilynn]

There is a big difference between ''biblical grace''that God has provided for us ,so that we may have forgiveness of sins.

And hyper grace being taught in this forum and in our churches that says we can continue in sin without consequence because we profess Christ.

Shalom On,

You keep making these false allegations. You don't understand grace as the Bible states it. Please read the OP, there is no "hyper grace" there. You are making arguments against things that have NOT been raised.

[Vickilynn]

Let me point out that part of our responsibility to our brothers and sisters is to lovingly and graciously correct them when they are in sin.

Shalom Rufus,

That said, it would be best if it were someone who KNOWS the person, knows their life, not judges (wrongly most times) them by words on a screen.

[Vickilynn]

Grace to you,

And hyper grace being taught in this forum and in our churches that says we can continue in sin without consequence because we profess Christ.

Be careful, you are now assigning motives to hearts and may be bearing false witness about this Ministry.

Peace,

Dave

I did not say this forum was teaching it nor that it was being taught by this forum,what I said is that it is being taught IN this forum.

And there are those that main purpose it seems is,to come in here create threads to promote hyper grace such as vickilynn is doing with this thread.As well as in her ''Faith/works'' thread.

Shalom On,

You'd better be careful about making continued false allegations. My thread does not teach anything resembling hyper grace and if you think so, you do not understand what real Biblical grace is.

Just remember, when you are so busy pointing a finger at someone else, there are THREE pointing back at you. Try some grace instead of condemnation.

[stan4257]

Shalom,

We have some posters here who do nothing but criticize and call "SINNER" to other Believers and preach doom and gloom and preach condemnation.

One of us must of been reading the thoughts of the other. See my latest in the thread 'We Don't Do It'

On second thoughts, the Holy Spirit is talking to us.

What wonderful news to know that Worthy Boards is in the mind of God.