Healings in today's church

[His son]

All the miracles that are written in Marks 16th chapter have been in operation since Jesus sent the Disciples out to preach

That is something that I have wondered about.

Do you know people who drink poison and are unharmed by snakes?

Where in The Bible did you read that someone drank poison? Paul was bitten by a snake but he didn't drink poison. I have talked to some missionaries who have gone to the most remote areas of the earth to preach The Gospel who have had attempts to poison them by with doctors fail, but they didn't intentionaly drink pioson. We are not to tempt God. And if someone should do as the Religious leaders of Christs day did by accusing him of doing things by satan they could possibly tempting God. satan is an imitator who has certain powers but they are always different than God's miracles, and will glorify men rather than God. There are so many testimonies of God's miracles in the life stories of missionaries that one does not have to doubt that miracles are happening, and have been ever since God intitiated His plan for the salvation of our relationship with Him.

The only reason their is controversy in this area is because man continues to lean to his own understanding.

[other one]

All the miracles that are written in Marks 16th chapter have been in operation since Jesus sent the Disciples out to preach

That is something that I have wondered about.

Do you know people who drink poison and are unharmed by snakes?

There are people who handle snakes in church services, some are bitten and I believe I have read that some have died.

These acts are no different than when Lucifer ask Jesus to jump off the high wall and have the angels catch him. Jesus told him that it is written that we should not test the Lord. I think that is the example we should take.

I have also read that there are many instances when missionairies have been bitten accidentally and not harmed, however I don't know about of any of these personally.

I was bitten by a copperhead many years ago (not while I was active as a christian) and it was not a good experience. Come to think of it, it was not too long after that, that the Spirit convicted me of my wayword ways and brought me back into a close walk with Him.

Sam

Edited May 2, 2004 by other one

[stevehut]

Where in The Bible did you read that someone drank poison?

Um, I was referring back to your post about Mark 16. You said that all of the signs from that passage are still valid today. And it says those signs would be done by "those who believe", not just apostles or church leaders.

[irishcowboy]

All the miracles that are written in Marks 16th chapter have been in operation since Jesus sent the Disciples out to preach

That is something that I have wondered about.

Do you know people who drink poison and are unharmed by snakes?

There are people who handle snakes in church services, some are bitten and I believe I have read that some have died.

These acts are no different than when Lucifer ask Jesus to jump off the high wall and have the angels catch him. Jesus told him that it is written that we should not test the Lord. I think that is the example we should take.

I have also read that there are many instances when missionairies have been bitten accidentally and not harmed, however I don't know about of any of these personally.

I was bitten by a copperhead many years ago (not while I was active as a christian) and it was not a good experience. Come to think of it, it was not too long after that, that the Spirit convicted me of my wayword ways and brought me back into a close walk with Him.

Sam

as far as i know there has never been a death from the bite of a copper head in Kansas or Missouri ...... many bites, many sick from it, no deaths......

from what i have personally experienced, a copper head, for the most part, will try to avoid people, and will only bite when they feel threatened......

the largest copper head i have ever seen was well over 3 feet long, and when I seen it, I was on my way to pass it for about the sixth time in just a matter of a few minutes.... going up and down some basement steps.... it had no intention of trying to bite but was ready to if i had stepped on it..... a very beautiful snake...

needless to say, the person with me is one that would go out of his way to kill a snake of any kind, me, I like them and have had no harm come to me from them except when once with a huge black snake, which i received a bite, other then that no other snake ( rattlers, cottonmouths, copperheads or any other ) has ever bit.

do I account this to being careful? not peticularly, some times i have been foolish in my actions.....

personally, i do not purpossly mess with snakes except for teaching reasons...

mike

[stevehut]

as far as i know there has never been a death from the bite of a copper head in Kansas or Missouri ...... many bites, many sick from it, no deaths......

I think you're missing the point here. Not all snakes bite, and not all that do are poisonous. Among those that are poisonous, some are worse than others.

Do you understand what I was asking?

[Kay]

How did the question about miracles lead to snake bites???????????????

Come on guys!!!!

[stevehut]

How did the question about miracles lead to snake bites???????????????

Follow the conversation dear...Mark 16.

[His son]

Where in The Bible did you read that someone drank poison?

Um, I was referring back to your post about Mark 16. You said that all of the signs from that passage are still valid today. And it says those signs would be done by "those who believe", not just apostles or church leaders.

Mark 16, doesn't say that they intentionally drank poison. Like I said we are not to tempt God. God intends for us to do everything Christ did, but this is only going to happen for each of us as individuals when we surrender totally to His will, and are in such a close personal relationship with Him that He can trust us with these gifts that are operated by The Holy Spirit using us. I have been used in most of these gifts, so I don't have to wonder if they are still in operation I know they are. The biggest hinderance to them is men leaning to their own understanding in regards to them. I was there and did that, but when I surrendered it to God then I found the Truth.

[stevehut]

Mark 16, doesn't say that they intentionally drank poison. Like I said we are not to tempt God.

Agreed. But you still haven't answered my question.

You said that all of the signs described in Mark 16 are still valid today...right? One of them is drinking poison without harm. So once again: do you know of anyone who has consumed poison without being harmed?

This is not a setup. I don't have any agenda. I'm not going to jump out of a closet to accuse you of something, based upon your answer. I'm simply trying to understand your position here.

OK?