is marrying off 15yr olds and multiple wifes a big deal?

[Axxman]

While your correct they are doing what has been taught to them...........THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE the child molestation, incest and the abuse of boys that goes on. I don't care WHAT they've been taught since the 1830's, celestial marriage isn't about marrying 12, 13 and 14 year old girls, and throwing your sons away. That little added spice to their "cult" is all fallen human nature and satan.

I luv ya Scarletprayers but you may wanna call Texas officials if you have evidence of molestation, incest or abuse of boys...because the State of Texas and CPS has found NO evidence of any of that...and CPS has admitted this publicly. The State won't admit it because it is becoming increasingly clear that they are gonna get sued for this HUGE blunder.

I totally agree that what the FLDS does is a result of a sinful human nature and satan...but so is the sexual immorality, and divorce prevalent in the Christian church. Either way it does not give the Federal gov't a right to abuse the Freedoms of Citizens of this country.

There are far worse religions...and lifestyles (homosexuality) than anything going on at this FLDS compound. They are wrong, they are living a lie, they are decieved...and that is their right.

BTW...celestial marriage is about having children...lots of them, with lots of wives. Waiting until a girl is 18 is a waste of 1 or 2 possible pregnancies and that in itself is sinful in their religion.

[Guest LadyC]

you don't think that "marrying" children as young as 13 is molestation?

you don't think that these illegal but so-called "marriages", that are very often with uncles, are incestuous?

you don't think kicking teenage boys out on the street with no means of support is abusive?

just because the state of texas hasn't found the evidence they need to prosecute and make the charges STICK, doesn't mean what is going on is not all of the above.

[Guest LadyC]

ya know, it seems to me that it shouldn't matter what they've been brainwashed all their lives to believe. any old man with half a brain should grasp the concept that having sex with a 13 year old is sickening and abusive, especially when i'm quite sure that most of these little girls have a difficult time hiding the fact that they're terrified, heartbroken and repulsed.

[anitarose]

While your correct they are doing what has been taught to them...........THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE the child molestation, incest and the abuse of boys that goes on. I don't care WHAT they've been taught since the 1830's, celestial marriage isn't about marrying 12, 13 and 14 year old girls, and throwing your sons away. That little added spice to their "cult" is all fallen human nature and satan.

I luv ya Scarletprayers but you may wanna call Texas officials if you have evidence of molestation, incest or abuse of boys...because the State of Texas and CPS has found NO evidence of any of that...and CPS has admitted this publicly. The State won't admit it because it is becoming increasingly clear that they are gonna get sued for this HUGE blunder.

I totally agree that what the FLDS does is a result of a sinful human nature and satan...but so is the sexual immorality, and divorce prevalent in the Christian church. Either way it does not give the Federal gov't a right to abuse the Freedoms of Citizens of this country.

There are far worse religions...and lifestyles (homosexuality) than anything going on at this FLDS compound. They are wrong, they are living a lie, they are decieved...and that is their right.

BTW...celestial marriage is about having children...lots of them, with lots of wives. Waiting until a girl is 18 is a waste of 1 or 2 possible pregnancies and that in itself is sinful in their religion.

And the state of Texas thinks it's OK that 12, 13, and 14 year old girls are having kids with 50 year old men. Not to mention that polygamy IS illegal, not only in Texas but in the entire country. I don't care if this is a religious thing, incest and pedophilia is flat down ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, AND UNETHICAL. Not only in the eyes of the law but in the eyes of God Himself.

a.

[Merin]

you don't think that "marrying" children as young as 13 is molestation?

you don't think that these illegal but so-called "marriages", that are very often with uncles, are incestuous?

you don't think kicking teenage boys out on the street with no means of support is abusive?

just because the state of texas hasn't found the evidence they need to prosecute and make the charges STICK, doesn't mean what is going on is not all of the above.

you who?

[Scarletprayers]

While your correct they are doing what has been taught to them...........THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE the child molestation, incest and the abuse of boys that goes on. I don't care WHAT they've been taught since the 1830's, celestial marriage isn't about marrying 12, 13 and 14 year old girls, and throwing your sons away. That little added spice to their "cult" is all fallen human nature and satan.

I luv ya Scarletprayers but you may wanna call Texas officials if you have evidence of molestation, incest or abuse of boys...because the State of Texas and CPS has found NO evidence of any of that...and CPS has admitted this publicly. The State won't admit it because it is becoming increasingly clear that they are gonna get sued for this HUGE blunder.

I totally agree that what the FLDS does is a result of a sinful human nature and satan...but so is the sexual immorality, and divorce prevalent in the Christian church. Either way it does not give the Federal gov't a right to abuse the Freedoms of Citizens of this country.

There are far worse religions...and lifestyles (homosexuality) than anything going on at this FLDS compound. They are wrong, they are living a lie, they are decieved...and that is their right.

BTW...celestial marriage is about having children...lots of them, with lots of wives. Waiting until a girl is 18 is a waste of 1 or 2 possible pregnancies and that in itself is sinful in their religion.

love you too Axx. But I wasn't just talking about just this one group, and yes there is sinful human nature everywhere, as I too well know. But this whole situation is a set up for a disaster waiting to happen. Men with too many wives, and way too many children, its hard to have a connection with one child when you have 30, thats why its easy for them to trade and barter and throw away their children. Do those same things happen out in "normal" and I use the word loosely, society, ohhhh yeah, but this cult is a breeding ground for abuses of all kinds. Most of them (not all) but most of them can't even support their "familys" they depend on welfare and food stamps, its also one of the reasons why the women refuse to name the Father's name, because the state could then go back and force the Fathers to reimburse them for the money paid out to support their children. And the fact that 20 and younger woman have children old enough to put them into their early teens as having been pregnant, means there was abuse going on. Any way you slice it!

[kat8585]

you don't think that "marrying" children as young as 13 is molestation?

you don't think that these illegal but so-called "marriages", that are very often with uncles, are incestuous? :blink:

you don't think kicking teenage boys out on the street with no means of support is abusive? :blink:

just because the state of texas hasn't found the evidence they need to prosecute and make the charges STICK, doesn't mean what is going on is not all of the above.

What kind of father or mother could do this?

[Guest LadyC]

you don't think that "marrying" children as young as 13 is molestation?

you don't think that these illegal but so-called "marriages", that are very often with uncles, are incestuous? :blink:

you don't think kicking teenage boys out on the street with no means of support is abusive? :blink:

just because the state of texas hasn't found the evidence they need to prosecute and make the charges STICK, doesn't mean what is going on is not all of the above.

you who?

whoever wants to answer it i suppose, but i asked those questions in response to axxman's post.

[pamiam]

I feels strange to read page after page of this. I am through with this one.

[redwing]

you don't think that "marrying" children as young as 13 is molestation?

you don't think that these illegal but so-called "marriages", that are very often with uncles, are incestuous? :blink:

you don't think kicking teenage boys out on the street with no means of support is abusive? :blink:

just because the state of texas hasn't found the evidence they need to prosecute and make the charges STICK, doesn't mean what is going on is not all of the above.

What kind of father or mother could do this

?

just be a member of the flds