is marrying off 15yr olds and multiple wifes a big deal?

[Scarletprayers]

I just think that maybe their 13yr olds are more mature than alot of twenty yr olds! Its a different way of life. I think we over value marrying for "love". Marriage is a partnership

and who says they are not willing?

...that's the point. You "think". That is conjecture based on some false assumptions. We're not talking about marrying for love. We are talking about rape, slavery, cultish behaviors, child abuse...and if we stood by and allowed it to continue, we'd be just as guilty. These are real lives...real souls. Ask the young girl who broke away and reported the activities withing the cult if she was willing or not. I think it is safe to assume that she was not willing.

yeah Wayne!

[Merin]

I just think that maybe their 13yr olds are more mature than alot of twenty yr olds! Its a different way of life. I think we over value marrying for "love". Marriage is a partnership

and who says they are not willing?

...that's the point. You "think". That is conjecture based on some false assumptions. We're not talking about marrying for love. We are talking about rape, slavery, cultish behaviors, child abuse...and if we stood by and allowed it to continue, we'd be just as guilty. These are real lives...real souls. Ask the young girl who broke away and reported the activities withing the cult if she was willing or not. I think it is safe to assume that she was not willing.

that's one of my points... I am thinking.. I don't know! But you are assuming a lot there...

[ladypeartree]

no matter what you think 13 year old girls are not physically mature enough to be having babies without a SERIOUS effect on their health...It is hard enough to carry and give birth to a child for a body that has finished growing ..what you are saying is that in your opinion it is ok for CHILDREN to have to give up all the joy of childhood in order to satisfy the lusts of old men and it is the CHILD that has to go through the physical pain involved in child bearing.....what next is it ok to marry off babies ..it would save the parents the bother of bringing them up. As for keeping the children with the parents ..it was the parents INCLUDING the mothers who agreed to ( or at least did nothing to stop ) these rapes ...no doubt they themselves had been brainwashed into thinking this was not only acceptable but their duty .If this was happening in a so called third world country most people wpould be shaking their heads at how ill informed and backward the people were and would be congratulating the " officials" for saving the children.

[MorningGlory]

13 year olds being forced to have sex with middle aged men; women and girls forced from puberty to have children, in effect, being used as brood mares. Wives and children taken from excommunicated men and 'assigned' to someone else. Spousal abuse with no recourse to the law and several reports of child abuse as well. No legal marriage whatsoever, just 'spiritual marriages'. Children not sure who their parents are, women unable to leave if they wish to, no birth records on file for these people, children not being vaccinated. How many more do you want? And how do you know families are being torn apart? These people won't even give their last names.....or they may not know them. Some also are not sure how old they are. This is the biggest mess I've ever heard of.

[ladypeartree]

I am truly distressed at the taking apart of these families!!!

Well, if they are having to take DNA tests to determine the child's parentage, it sounds like the families are alread split up.

Are you saying they the "families don't know who belongs to who?

lots of them dont appear to know ...and if you have multiple wives and as much inbreeding as has gone on there it ends up in confusion without the added complications of the fact that the women and children are giving different names and ages each time they are asked...if they have nothing to hide why do the try to confuse

[Merin]

lady pearl

I'm not sure where you got all that.. Can you plz quote me?

[Ovedya]

I just think that maybe their 13yr olds are more mature than alot of twenty yr olds! Its a different way of life. I think we over value marrying for "love". Marriage is a partnership

and who says they are not willing?

Firstly, I was talking to you. I was responding to your implied assertion that marrying a 15-year-old is not a big deal.

Recent psychological research indicates that even young people as old as 19 to 20 are not developed enough to make rational decisions. Even iof we judged by the law, the age of 18 is really not "adulthood" in terms of having the ability to make rational life-changing decisions such as committing to a marriage and having children. So why in the world would you consider 15 to be a reasonable age at which a girl can commit to marriage and child rearing? A 15-year-old has no idea what a true "partnership" is or what it implies. I do not agree at all that any 15-year-old is more mature than a 20-year-old.

[Merin]

I do not agree at all that any 15-year-old is more mature than a 20-year-old.

[Merin]

how do you do that quote thing thats cool

[nebula]

I am truly distressed at the taking apart of these families!!!

Well, if they are having to take DNA tests to determine the child's parentage, it sounds like the families are already split up.

Are you saying they the "families don't know who belongs to who?

What do you make of the need for the DNA testing?

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