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Rate cuts cause inflation. Speculation chages with the wind. The supply is fixed because of refineries (they are fixed). Speculators can be bought. Besides no one knows the true supply of oil, it's speculative. Those who control our economy (Federal Reserve bankers) also control the oil and its supply. Inflation caused by fiat central banks that have hijacked the economies throughout the Earth have. :laugh:

FPG, I'll try one more time. The Federal Reserve does NOT control the oil market...which is global. Refineries have NOTHING to do with the price of crude oil...which has to be bought THEN refined; their influence would show up in the price of gasoline. Yes, rate cuts can cause inflation but don't always. Speculators bet on the prices rising after they buy up large amounts of crude oil, hoping to make huge profits. Once again, you're going off on something else about the Federal Reserve (which you seem to blame for everything); well they don't control the oil producers or the speculators. Sheesh! :th_frusty:

Hummmm, you make a good point....... but do the oil people also own and control the Federal Reserve???? that would make an interesting study.

Now THAT is worth looking into but, as I keep telling FPG, the Federal Reserve still doesn't control the oil market....it's global and, as such, is influenced by a myriad of different things and different countries. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that Big Oil is represented heavily on the Federal Reserve board though. :rolleyes:

The Federal Reserve bankers control almost ALL markets on Earth. Besides oil is speculative. There are no international laws allowing any speculater access to any and all oil fields. It is all speculative and questionable. And yes those who control the money control everything. The land is theirs as collateral on our secured debt that we cannot repay. The government owns our land and the Federal Reserve owns them. :blink:

The government does NOT own the citizens' land, FPG; why you say these things is beyond me. Once again, speculators operate through the stock exchanges around the world and, no, they don't have access to the oil fields. I don't understand what you mean by 'it's all speculative and questionable', btw. Here's a link explaining the operation of the Federal Reserve....it's really not a giant conspiracy; it's a system of banks and does NOT own the government. The Federal Reserve sets monetary policy, to keep the economy growing and control inflation; overall, they have done a pretty good job over the years.

https://www.quickenloans.com/mortgage-news/...al-reserve-4933

The borrower is a slave to the lender. The Federal Reserve causes inflation with its artificial rates cuts. The market itself should determine the true value of rates. This should not be done artificially to manipulate. No loan is unsecured. What is our collateral if not our land and assets?

It's all speculative and questionable means that speculators are guessing. Speculation is not why the price of oil and other commodities have doubled within the past 10 years.

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Rate cuts cause inflation. Speculation chages with the wind. The supply is fixed because of refineries (they are fixed). Speculators can be bought. Besides no one knows the true supply of oil, it's speculative. Those who control our economy (Federal Reserve bankers) also control the oil and its supply. Inflation caused by fiat central banks that have hijacked the economies throughout the Earth have. :blink:

FPG, I'll try one more time. The Federal Reserve does NOT control the oil market...which is global. Refineries have NOTHING to do with the price of crude oil...which has to be bought THEN refined; their influence would show up in the price of gasoline. Yes, rate cuts can cause inflation but don't always. Speculators bet on the prices rising after they buy up large amounts of crude oil, hoping to make huge profits. Once again, you're going off on something else about the Federal Reserve (which you seem to blame for everything); well they don't control the oil producers or the speculators. Sheesh! :)

Hummmm, you make a good point....... but do the oil people also own and control the Federal Reserve???? that would make an interesting study.

Now THAT is worth looking into but, as I keep telling FPG, the Federal Reserve still doesn't control the oil market....it's global and, as such, is influenced by a myriad of different things and different countries. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that Big Oil is represented heavily on the Federal Reserve board though. :blink:

The Federal Reserve bankers control almost ALL markets on Earth. Besides oil is speculative. There are no international laws allowing any speculater access to any and all oil fields. It is all speculative and questionable. And yes those who control the money control everything. The land is theirs as collateral on our secured debt that we cannot repay. The government owns our land and the Federal Reserve owns them. :emot-hug:

The government does NOT own the citizens' land, FPG; why you say these things is beyond me. Once again, speculators operate through the stock exchanges around the world and, no, they don't have access to the oil fields. I don't understand what you mean by 'it's all speculative and questionable', btw. Here's a link explaining the operation of the Federal Reserve....it's really not a giant conspiracy; it's a system of banks and does NOT own the government. The Federal Reserve sets monetary policy, to keep the economy growing and control inflation; overall, they have done a pretty good job over the years.

https://www.quickenloans.com/mortgage-news/...al-reserve-4933

The borrower is a slave to the lender. The Federal Reserve causes inflation with its artificial rates cuts. The market itself should determine the true value of rates. This should not be done artificially to manipulate. No loan is unsecured. What is our collateral if not our land and assets?

It's all speculative and questionable means that speculators are guessing. Speculation is not why the price of oil and other commodities have doubled within the past 10 years.

The stock market should determine the lending rates? What would you like; that no one be in charge of driving the economy? Yeah, that's a good idea. I give up, FPG. :blink:


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Who cares...gas hasn't even reached $5 a gallon yet. Fact is, gasoline is still a profit making business. People are still buying the product, and the people selling it are still making a profit. So whats the big deal???


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A good point was made on tv yesterday by my senator, Kay Hutchison. If we even say we're going to drill, the price would immediately come down.


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Who cares...gas hasn't even reached $5 a gallon yet. Fact is, gasoline is still a profit making business. People are still buying the product, and the people selling it are still making a profit. So whats the big deal???

Your real name must be Bill Gates if you don't think oil prices are a big deal...... :th_praying:


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A good point was made on tv yesterday by my senator, Kay Hutchison. If we even say we're going to drill, the price would immediately come down.

She may very well be right.... :th_praying:


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Rate cuts cause inflation. Speculation chages with the wind. The supply is fixed because of refineries (they are fixed). Speculators can be bought. Besides no one knows the true supply of oil, it's speculative. Those who control our economy (Federal Reserve bankers) also control the oil and its supply. Inflation caused by fiat central banks that have hijacked the economies throughout the Earth have. :laugh:

FPG, I'll try one more time. The Federal Reserve does NOT control the oil market...which is global. Refineries have NOTHING to do with the price of crude oil...which has to be bought THEN refined; their influence would show up in the price of gasoline. Yes, rate cuts can cause inflation but don't always. Speculators bet on the prices rising after they buy up large amounts of crude oil, hoping to make huge profits. Once again, you're going off on something else about the Federal Reserve (which you seem to blame for everything); well they don't control the oil producers or the speculators. Sheesh! ;)

Hummmm, you make a good point....... but do the oil people also own and control the Federal Reserve???? that would make an interesting study.

Now THAT is worth looking into but, as I keep telling FPG, the Federal Reserve still doesn't control the oil market....it's global and, as such, is influenced by a myriad of different things and different countries. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that Big Oil is represented heavily on the Federal Reserve board though. :rolleyes:

The Federal Reserve bankers control almost ALL markets on Earth. Besides oil is speculative. There are no international laws allowing any speculater access to any and all oil fields. It is all speculative and questionable. And yes those who control the money control everything. The land is theirs as collateral on our secured debt that we cannot repay. The government owns our land and the Federal Reserve owns them. :th_praying:

The government does NOT own the citizens' land, FPG; why you say these things is beyond me. Once again, speculators operate through the stock exchanges around the world and, no, they don't have access to the oil fields. I don't understand what you mean by 'it's all speculative and questionable', btw. Here's a link explaining the operation of the Federal Reserve....it's really not a giant conspiracy; it's a system of banks and does NOT own the government. The Federal Reserve sets monetary policy, to keep the economy growing and control inflation; overall, they have done a pretty good job over the years.

https://www.quickenloans.com/mortgage-news/...al-reserve-4933

The borrower is a slave to the lender. The Federal Reserve causes inflation with its artificial rates cuts. The market itself should determine the true value of rates. This should not be done artificially to manipulate. No loan is unsecured. What is our collateral if not our land and assets?

It's all speculative and questionable means that speculators are guessing. Speculation is not why the price of oil and other commodities have doubled within the past 10 years.

The stock market should determine the lending rates? What would you like; that no one be in charge of driving the economy? Yeah, that's a good idea. I give up, FPG. :blink:

That's right. It's called a free market. Where savings and production matter. Not borrowing and consuming. When supply/demand truly dictates pricing (like you think it exclusively does now but doesn't because the market is manipulated). With little room for bubbles and manipulation at the hands of a few uber elites. "We the people" should determine true value as a whole where pricing is honest. The Fed has cut rates 7 times in the last 9 months. They use to do it once or twice a decade. This is ridiculous and a blantant attempt to crash the dollar. It is over inflating our economy and will cause it to crash.


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Who cares...gas hasn't even reached $5 a gallon yet. Fact is, gasoline is still a profit making business. People are still buying the product, and the people selling it are still making a profit. So whats the big deal???

Your real name must be Bill Gates if you don't think oil prices are a big deal...... :sherlock:

LOL...I wish. :laugh:

I just don't really care yet. My driving habits haven't changed. I still fill up as often as I used to. Sure it costs $25 dollars more to do it but big deal. I just order Dominoes Pizza less than I used to. Or maybe I skip going to see the new HULK movie. Yeah, it kinda stinks to have to prioritize a bit more...but its not like I had to go buy a hybrid car. egads!!! Then I'll know I've got a problem.


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That's right. It's called a free market. Where savings and production matter. Not borrowing and consuming. When supply/demand truly dictates pricing (like you think it exclusively does now but doesn't because the market is manipulated). With little room for bubbles and manipulation at the hands of a few uber elites. "We the people" should determine true value as a whole where pricing is honest. The Fed has cut rates 7 times in the last 9 months. They use to do it once or twice a decade. This is ridiculous and a blantant attempt to crash the dollar. It is over inflating our economy and will cause it to crash.

I said the 'stock market'; you need to read more carefully because I did NOT say I believe that supply and demand are driving prices. Why, pray tell, does the Fed want to deliberately crash the dollar? Isn't that kind of counterproductive? :sherlock:


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That's right. It's called a free market. Where savings and production matter. Not borrowing and consuming. When supply/demand truly dictates pricing (like you think it exclusively does now but doesn't because the market is manipulated). With little room for bubbles and manipulation at the hands of a few uber elites. "We the people" should determine true value as a whole where pricing is honest. The Fed has cut rates 7 times in the last 9 months. They use to do it once or twice a decade. This is ridiculous and a blantant attempt to crash the dollar. It is over inflating our economy and will cause it to crash.

I said the 'stock market'; you need to read more carefully because I did NOT say I believe that supply and demand are driving prices. Why, pray tell, does the Fed want to deliberately crash the dollar? Isn't that kind of counterproductive? :wub:

You said supply/demand was driving up oil prices. :emot-lwt:

No it isn't counter productive. Because they control the economies of Canada and Mexico. They will crash the dollar and save it. They will propose a solution of an Amero, yes, like the Euro (which, yes, they also control). This is the progression of a world economy controlled entirely by one entity.

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