Question

[~~ angelique ~~]

Actually, I was asking this question because I was seriously considering committing suicide. Since posting this question, my husband died. This one question and its lack of a clear answer is the only thing stopping me from doing it at the moment. A lady in the grief group I'm attending brought up this topic last week. Heaven or hell?? I dunno but a lack of a clear answer is halting me for the moment.

Why were you considering that, Angelique?

It's private. I'd rather not say.

[nebula]

Angelique -

Have you talked to the Lord about this?

[HAZARD]

Actually, I was asking this question because I was seriously considering committing suicide. Since posting this question, my husband died. :( This one question and its lack of a clear answer is the only thing stopping me from doing it at the moment. A lady in the grief group I'm attending brought up this topic last week. Heaven or hell?? I dunno but a lack of a clear answer is halting me for the moment.

I am so sorry to hear you husband has died. God strengthen and protect and keep you safe. Whatever it is keeping you from killing yourself is a good thing. Hang in there. Ask God for more strength to cope.

Scripture teaches that Judas and many others names were written in the book of life. Scripture also teaches that Judas had his name removed from the book of life because by transgression he fell. And instead of repenting like the other apsotles who denied Christ, he brooded over his sin and committed suicied.

Check the scripture for yourself.

Judas had his name WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE in Heaven as prived by Acts 1:20 with Psalms 69:25-29.

He fell from the apostleship by transgression (Acts 1:15-25).

It was not untill the end of Christs ministry that Judas began to pilfer and to grow cold in his love for Christ. It was not until the last supper that the devil entered into him, that is, became united with him in the same crime. It was two days before the passover that he put into the heart of Judas to go to the enemies of Jesus to betray him. into their hands (Matt. 26:1-5, 14-16; John 13:2). It was at this time that he openly broke with Christ and saught opportunity to betray Him.

Judas was sorry afterwards for his betrayal (Matt. 27:3-5), but did not actually repent.

He could have repented and been forgiven as much as any of the others who cursed, denied Christ, and fled like cowards in the test.

But being of a disposition to do so, he brooded over his fall and yielded to temptation to commit suicide.

His name was then removed from the book of life.

[HAZARD]

Scripture teaches that Judas and many others names were written in the book of life. Scripture also teaches that Judas had his name removed from the book of life because by transgression he fell. And instead of repenting like the other apsotles who denied Christ, he brooded over his sin and committed suicied.

Check the scripture for yourself.

Judas had his name WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE in Heaven as prived by Acts 1:20 with Psalms 69:25-29.

where is anything about the book of life and Judas mentioned in these verses or any where else?

I dont see it at all, what am I missing?

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He had the Holy Spirit and power like the other apostles and he was a sucessful preacher and healer like them (Matt. 10:1-20; Mark 6:7-13).

He had his name WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE in Heaven, Acts 1:20 with Psalms 69:25-29.

He fell from the apostleship by transgression, (sin). (Acts 1:15-25).

"Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take." (Acts 1:16-20).

And they drew lots and the lot fell upon Matthias. He took Judas's place in the apostleship.

"That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." (Acts 1"25-26).

It was not untill the end of Christs ministry that Judas began to pilfer and to grow cold in his love for Christ. It was not until the last supper that the devil entered into him, that is, became united with him in the same crime. It was two days before the passover that he put into the heart of Judas to go to the enemies of Jesus to betray him. into their hands (Matt. 26:1-5, 14-16; John 13:2). It was at this time that he openly broke with Christ and saught opportunity to betray Him.

Judas was sorry afterwards for his betrayal (Matt. 27:3-5).

He could have repented and been forgiven as much as any of the others who cursed, denied Christ, and fled like cowards in the test.

But being of a disposition to do so, he brooded over his fall and yielded to temptation to commit suicide.

King Saul was another who was in God's favour and grace and comitted suicide and was lost.

Saul was once in God's favour and grace and he had the Holy Spirit and he lost that favour and was destroyed because of sin (1 Chron. 10:3-14). Saul comitted suicide and thereby was lost, for no murderer has eternal life (1 Sam. 28:7-25; 31:1-6; 1 John 3:15; Gal. 5:19-21). It is recorded in Scripture how the spirit left him when he sinned (1 Sam. 16:12-23). Saul went into spiritualism and God said He would cut off the man who did this thing (Lev. 19:31; 20:6; Deut. 18:11). Saul was a humble and godly man when he was chosen to lead Israel, but he did not end this way (1 Sam. 10:21-24).

Haz.

[~~ angelique ~~]

Will someone PLEASE tell me for sure the answer to this question?

[Smalcald]

If they had faith in Christ they are in heaven.

If they did not it is very questionable.

No one can answer your question for sure but God. But no one goes to hell becuase they suffered from Bi-polar or depression or whatever sickness of the mind caused them to commit suicide. They are no different from anyone else who dies as far as salvation goes.

[OneLight]

Despite what anyone tells you here, nobody can say for sure that they are right. Nobody can tell you that it is a fact that suicide is forgiven because you will not find it in scripture anywhere. The question is really this ... is anyone willing to bet their life with God on another person's belief? I can tell you with certainty that I will not, no matter how bad it gets.

Please, brothers and sisters ... be very careful how you word your faith. Are you really showing them love by telling them that you believe if they take their life they will be with Jesus forever, giving a stamp of approval in a depressed mind?

[nebula]

Will someone PLEASE tell me for sure the answer to this question?

The only sure answer I know is that only the Lord can tell you this.

Have you talked to Him about this?

And I don't mean, "Lord, I want You to take me now." I mean having a heart-to-heart conversation with him? And specifically asking Him what would happen if you killed yourself.

I did for myself. So I know it's safe to ask Him such things.

And by the way -

[Guest Biblicist]

Will someone PLEASE tell me for sure the answer to this question?

sounds like you want an answer so you can make the decision of whether or not to do it? what if we say, no you wont go to hell, and then you kill yourself? i know its not about us and our feelings. still tho...

i recently been told that suicide wont end the pain, or something like that. my first thought was "yes. it will." but then i thought about it some more. yes, the earthly pain will be gone, but so will a lot of other things. things that i like. things i would miss if i leave now. and the idea of not having "conquered." like leaving a bed half made. or a book half read. i don't know. i understand wanting to end the pain, or be with someone else who died. i also know no person can take that wanting away. only God can. theres a hymn that says "look to Jesus now and live." thats what id say to you now. the desire still pops up for me now and then, but i gotta trust God to hold onto me. sometimes thats all i can do. please do that, too.

I agree, it sounds more like you are looking for permission, rather than help.

You want to escape from the problems of this life. I don't blame you, really I don't. What you have been through recently is horrendous. But your life does not belong to you, now, does it? It belongs to the LORD. He is not finished with you, of that I am certain. Don't ask Him to quit on you just because life is too hard. He's got something in store for you, don't ask Him to forfeit that plan just because you are unhappy.

[Floatingaxe]

If they had faith in Christ they are in heaven.

If they did not it is very questionable.

No one can answer your question for sure but God. But no one goes to hell becuase they suffered from Bi-polar or depression or whatever sickness of the mind caused them to commit suicide. They are no different from anyone else who dies as far as salvation goes.