Tobacco

[Leonard]

Nicotine occurs naturally in the tobacco plant. I guess God is the 'criminal' in this case!

Now I happen to enjoy my pipe and an ocassional cigar very much, and I do not need the "Nanny-State" to regulate my life, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERN!

Can't we let grown-ups decide for themselves whether the pleasure they derive from smoking, is worth the risk they take? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE WORD "FREEDOM"?

[Guest man]

My advice to people who don't like cigarettes..................................don't smoke.

[Elbit Pada]

Nicotine occurs naturally in the tobacco plant. I guess God is the 'criminal' in this case!

Now I happen to enjoy my pipe and an ocassional cigar very much, and I do not need the "Nanny-State" to regulate my life, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERN!

Can't we let grown-ups decide for themselves whether the pleasure they derive from smoking, is worth the risk they take? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE WORD "FREEDOM"?

woohoo!!! THANK YOU LEONARD - this is exactly the point - I'd say the risk that smokers take is similar to that of coke/pepsi addicts; (after all you CAN clean your toilet bowl with it and it really works)

If you choose a handful of any products in your local grocery store and analyze the ingredients, I think you'll find it just as shameful (the amount of chemicals that are allowed to be put in FOOD products as "harmless")

I think thats much worse, because its being sold under the 'guise' of being healthy -- much, much more insideous; I mean what possible nutritional value can there be in 'red dye no.2' Yet our "powers that be" (food and drug 'deciders') tell us ... yep, itsallgood.

[Axxman]

Be mindful of the words which you type, brother...

Our government makes money (in form of taxes) from the sale of firearms and alcohol as well (You know, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms?). In fact, if you really want to get down to "brass tax" the government "makes money" from pornography, gambling, prostitution (At least in the case of Las Vegas), and many other things of which you and I obviously disapprove. So should we round up all the gun makers and force them to stand before firing lines, round up all the booze manufacturers and drown them in pools of alcohol, etc.? These people are fully aware of the damage their "products" cause. But as long as there is a demand for them there will be a supply. You could take all the manufacturers of "vice" in the world and burn them at the stake, but as long as there is a group of people who want to smoke, drink, gamble, and murder, there's going to be someone willing to step up and provide the instruments.

Think about it: What's the real solution...and how are we, the ones who are free in Christ Jesus, going to bring it to them?

Hiya Ovedya...

I think you'll find that I am one of the VERY FEW conservatives on these forums that has called for tougher laws on firearms...and the prohibition of alcohol. There is NO DOUBT that what you say is true about our gov't making money, hand over fist, from all sorts of vile and evil enterprises. I wholehearted support extreme sanctions against people that pour alcohol down the throats of millions of consumers. I am very pro-prohibition and I think it would have been successful if the gov't would have employed TOUGHER sanctions instead of letting the democrats end it..(prohibition= another lost war by the democrats.)

While there will always be evil...that doesn't mean we have to accept it, and make money off of it and pretend it doesn't harm people. I would rather make alcohol and tobacco illegal and deal with the consequences of doing the right thing...rather than accepting defeat in the face of evil and those who perpetrate it.

[Axxman]

Nicotine occurs naturally in the tobacco plant. I guess God is the 'criminal' in this case!

Now I happen to enjoy my pipe and an ocassional cigar very much, and I do not need the "Nanny-State" to regulate my life, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERN!

Can't we let grown-ups decide for themselves whether the pleasure they derive from smoking, is worth the risk they take? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE WORD "FREEDOM"?

Hey if adults want to expose themselves to a ravaging disease like cancer...more power to them. Way to appreciate the life and body God blessed you with.

And hey...your freedom to destroy your body wouldn't bother me near as much if it didn't support a tobacco industry that feeds off of the lives of the 4500 kids that start smoking everyday. Your "freedom" is hurting kids...nicely done sir!

God created all kinds of naturally occuring poisons and toxins...that doesn't mean he intended you to use poison ivy as a lotion additive any more than he intended you to suck nicotine into your lungs. Nicotine is more toxic than cocaine...do you support the cocaine industry? Would you support a cocaine industry that got 4500 kids a day addicted to cocaine?

Freedom is precious...so is common sense.

[Guest]

A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. Proverbs 25:11

Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Ephesians 5:19

[Gerioke]

Nicotine occurs naturally in the tobacco plant. I guess God is the 'criminal' in this case!

Now I happen to enjoy my pipe and an ocassional cigar very much, and I do not need the "Nanny-State" to regulate my life, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERN!

Can't we let grown-ups decide for themselves whether the pleasure they derive from smoking, is worth the risk they take? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE WORD "FREEDOM"?

Hey if adults want to expose themselves to a ravaging disease like cancer...more power to them. Way to appreciate the life and body God blessed you with.

And hey...your freedom to destroy your body wouldn't bother me near as much if it didn't support a tobacco industry that feeds off of the lives of the 4500 kids that start smoking everyday. Your "freedom" is hurting kids...nicely done sir!

God created all kinds of naturally occuring poisons and toxins...that doesn't mean he intended you to use poison ivy as a lotion additive any more than he intended you to suck nicotine into your lungs. Nicotine is more toxic than cocaine...do you support the cocaine industry? Would you support a cocaine industry that got 4500 kids a day addicted to cocaine?

Freedom is precious...so is common sense.

I agree wit Axxman, but I also understand what Leonard is saying.

God gave us the freedom to choose whether to sin or not. Man has provided the propaganda with which to brainwash fellow man into supporting that which harms us.

Perhaps if we outlawed advertising, our hearts would endure much more. Mind manipulation is probably more dangerous than all the toxic substances.