JESUS = Rabi?

October 21, 2008

I wonder if Jesus actually wore sandals?

It never really says in the Bible that he does, John only mentions that he is not fit to carry them. But it never really says that Christ wore anything on his feet.

Historically, he would have, since they were the shoe fashion of the day, but since it does not say "Jesus wore sandals" in the Bible, I doubt that he actually did.

I imagine his poor feet got pretty sore, maybe that's why he spent so much time near the water. A good soak in the dead sea probably felt heavenly.

Hmmm, how would we know? We weren't there.

oddly enough I have not seen one thread where someone was saying that beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jesus wore sandals. I have not seen a thread where people were attacked and called closed minded and other things for thinking that maybe Jesus didn

October 21, 2008

Ohforcryingoutloud!!!

LET IT GO!

traveller · October 21, 2008

Uh-huh - what Cobalt said.

traveller · October 21, 2008

my closing statement...

The things that we agree on...

Jesus was called Rabbi
Jesus had a good education and lots of knowledge
Jesus had followers
The one thing we don

kross · October 21, 2008

I do believe this comes under the heading of "disputes ver doubtful things"

Still, I am glad i started the thread. It has been an education.

While I agree with RG, I understand Shiloh. Irespect the position more now.

October 21, 2008

The one thing we don

Massorite · October 21, 2008

You should study up on the order of the Nazarenes who were raised to be prophets and we all know that Jesus was a Nazarene.

was Jesus a Nazarene by nature of being part of the order or Nazarenes, or by nature of living in Nazareth

Matt 2:23

And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

One of the reasons Jesus had long hair was because among other regulations of the order or sect of the Nazarines, HE was not allowed to cut his hair as long as HE was separated unto the Lord.

In the book of Numbers 6:2-21 we can learn that Nazarenes took a vow to separate themselves from the world unto the Lord. We find that they can not eat anything that is made with wine or the kernels of the husk, they can not drink wine or strong drink and so on.

We should always remember that Jesus had to fallow some of the same biblical guild lines as other Rabbi,s. He did not become a Rabbi with out credentials and those credentials were provided by the time He spent as a Nazarite and since we know that Jesus died with long hair we know that Jesus was still a member of the sect or order of the Nazarites because He did not finish His time as a Nazarene. According to Numbers 6:13-18 before He was crucified.

October 21, 2008

One of the reasons Jesus had long hair

How do we know Jesus had long hair. No where in the Bible does it say, "Jesus had long hair."

There are actually only a couple people that are actually talked about as having long hair. Jesus was not one of them.

Botz · October 21, 2008

We all confess that Yeshua was recognized as a Rabbi. That doesn't mean that He took "rabbi classes" and got a certification from the Pharisaical/Sanhedrin authorities, but He did rise up within the structure of Israel for recognizing Rabbis and that was through the community life of studying the torah on shabbat. Every person in a community could bring a "drash" (sermon) at their bar/bat mitzvah and those who showed ability to teach were given more opportunities as long as they were faithful.

Excellent Yod ...this part of what you have stated gets closer to the heart of what it means to have been a Rabbi in those formative days, and paints a clearer picture...at least for me. Jesus was naturally schooled as all Jewish boys would have been in Torah, and the oral traditions, and his wisdom and understanding would have probably been the talk of the local school and the neighbourhood.

When He went up to Jerusalem at the age of 12 and spent time in the temple astounding the learned scholars, it is possible that a relationship developed that continued everytime He went up to the Temple, or that those that had been in awe of His wisdom as a boy, made it a point to seek Him out, and check on His progress as He was growing up, maybe consulting with His teachers in Galilee. One thing is for sure, if He astounded the Big-wigs in Jerusalem, He must certainly have been astounding His teachers and class mates in Galilee. (which touches on the next speculative possibility...that some of the people Jesus called as His disciples, already knew Him or of Him.)

From within the community it would have been obvious, that this carpenters son, was going to become a Rabbi, and at the recognised time at about 30 years He began His ministry, just like all Rabbis would have done. It soon became obvious, that this Man spoke with authority, and performed such healings and miracles, that He left other ministries for dead. This can be seen in the way that even the most reknowned Rabbi at the time...John the Baptizer lost disciples to Rabbi Yeshua ben Yossef.

Here was a Rabbi who offered more than anyone else to His followers, and opened up the Scriptures like no other Rabbi could ever do...His ministry was very attractive to a spiritually hungry nation, and the words He spoke were not dry and academic in nature, but LIFE itself.

October 22, 2008

You should study up on the order of the Nazarenes who were raised to be prophets and we all know that Jesus was a Nazarene.

was Jesus a Nazarene by nature of being part of the order or Nazarenes, or by nature of living in Nazareth

Matt 2:23

And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

One of the reasons Jesus had long hair was because among other regulations of the order or sect of the Nazarines, HE was not allowed to cut his hair as long as HE was separated unto the Lord.
In the book of Numbers 6:2-21 we can learn that Nazarenes took a vow to separate themselves from the world unto the Lord. We find that they can not eat anything that is made with wine or the kernels of the husk, they can not drink wine or strong drink and so on.
We should always remember that Jesus had to fallow some of the same biblical guild lines as other Rabbi,s. He did not become a Rabbi with out credentials and those credentials were provided by the time He spent as a Nazarite and since we know that Jesus died with long hair we know that Jesus was still a member of the sect or order of the Nazarites because He did not finish His time as a Nazarene. According to Numbers 6:13-18 before He was crucified.

Nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus was a Nazarite. Nazarene was what those outside the believing community called the Jewish followers of Jesus/Y'shua. There are some ancient 1st/2nd century rabbinical writings mentioning the "Notzrim" (Nazarenes).

Nazarite should not be confused with "Nazarene." They have no relationship. There is no evidence that Jesus had long hair. Unless you believe in the Shroud of Turin nonsense.