Obey God or Mammon

[irishcowboy]

there is a difference between Honoring your father and mother, and Obeying your father and mother.

should your father say, bow down and worship this idol, you can still be honoring them and respectful to them and yet, not obey, just as Daniel and his three companions did......

they refused to bow down to idols or a man and worship, yet, at the same time they still honored the king that had been placed in authority over them.

some times people mis-read, or mis-understand what is really being said.....

just like the terms "fear" and "respect" there are different meanings to each and some think "Fear of the Lord" is like fear from a scarry show or fear of the dark or fear of something else, but it is not the same thing, and respect does not always mean to obey. and obey does not mean to honor and respect and honor are not even the same. these words/terms are frequently switched around....

Praise is many times mis-constrewed as Worship, again, there is a difference.....

also in music, there is some that people sing for Praise and Worship, and yet it is neither....

there are songs that sing to the Lord, praising Him....

there are songs that are lifting the Lord up in Worship....

and then there are songs that I call witness songs, that do not direct the song to the Lord, but to other people about the Lord..

manytimes the songs are actually exhalting ourselves, depending on how they are sung....

so, I honor my father and mother, but respecting the position of authority God has placed them in as being my father and mother. do I agree with everything my father and mother say? absolutely not. especially when it comes to politics..... we have disagreed many many many times on who should be office (local, state or federal) I honor him though, when visiting, he makes the rules for the house, and if Teresa and me go out for the evening, I still (at the age of 49) let him know when to expect me back in.... if there and need a tool, i know where the tool box(s) are, I still ask before using, and if he has a new one, I allow him to offer it to me to use..... also while there, I still do dishes, trash, hoeing planting and rototilling as needed. yes, chores.... it is his house, his table, no hats allowed at the table, even company no hats at the table... dads chair is dads chair, no one sits at the table in his chair..... I sure dont, not even if he is not there it is left vacant... being the eldest, I sit at the foot of the table..... mom to his right..... (reason i sit at the foot of the table is to watch his back and he watches mine, also so I can assist with serve the younger kids, the nephews and nieces... there are 6 of us kids living, and each with kids of our own, between Teresa and me, we have 5 and a grandson. my sister has none (barren) Jerry had 3 and a couple grand kids, Kevin has 3 of his own, and two steps, john has 2, bill has three...... all ranging from 3 years to 23 years old, for our kids and grand kids..... counting us 6 we have quite a group.)

anyways, obeying your folks is part of honoring them, until they try to have you go against the Word of God, and then it becomes a matter of the heart, how you deal with the issue if you choose not to obey, and it is against the Word..... you can honor your folks and not obey them depending on your attitude.

mike

[kross]

there is a difference between Honoring your father and mother, and Obeying your father and mother.

should your father say, bow down and worship this idol, you can still be honoring them and respectful to them and yet, not obey, just as Daniel and his three companions did......

they refused to bow down to idols or a man and worship, yet, at the same time they still honored the king that had been placed in authority over them.

some times people mis-read, or mis-understand what is really being said.....

just like the terms "fear" and "respect" there are different meanings to each and some think "Fear of the Lord" is like fear from a scarry show or fear of the dark or fear of something else, but it is not the same thing, and respect does not always mean to obey. and obey does not mean to honor and respect and honor are not even the same. these words/terms are frequently switched around....

Praise is many times mis-constrewed as Worship, again, there is a difference.....

also in music, there is some that people sing for Praise and Worship, and yet it is neither....

there are songs that sing to the Lord, praising Him....

there are songs that are lifting the Lord up in Worship....

and then there are songs that I call witness songs, that do not direct the song to the Lord, but to other people about the Lord..

manytimes the songs are actually exhalting ourselves, depending on how they are sung....

so, I honor my father and mother, but respecting the position of authority God has placed them in as being my father and mother. do I agree with everything my father and mother say? absolutely not. especially when it comes to politics..... we have disagreed many many many times on who should be office (local, state or federal) I honor him though, when visiting, he makes the rules for the house, and if Teresa and me go out for the evening, I still (at the age of 49) let him know when to expect me back in.... if there and need a tool, i know where the tool box(s) are, I still ask before using, and if he has a new one, I allow him to offer it to me to use..... also while there, I still do dishes, trash, hoeing planting and rototilling as needed. yes, chores.... it is his house, his table, no hats allowed at the table, even company no hats at the table... dads chair is dads chair, no one sits at the table in his chair..... I sure dont, not even if he is not there it is left vacant... being the eldest, I sit at the foot of the table..... mom to his right..... (reason i sit at the foot of the table is to watch his back and he watches mine, also so I can assist with serve the younger kids, the nephews and nieces... there are 6 of us kids living, and each with kids of our own, between Teresa and me, we have 5 and a grandson. my sister has none (barren) Jerry had 3 and a couple grand kids, Kevin has 3 of his own, and two steps, john has 2, bill has three...... all ranging from 3 years to 23 years old, for our kids and grand kids..... counting us 6 we have quite a group.)

anyways, obeying your folks is part of honoring them, until they try to have you go against the Word of God, and then it becomes a matter of the heart, how you deal with the issue if you choose not to obey, and it is against the Word..... you can honor your folks and not obey them depending on your attitude.

mike

You give them greatest honor by growing up in the admonition of the LORD.

[kittylover0991]

Kross,

I don't understand, what do you mean by "abomination of the Lord"?

I think Irish gave an awesome post on the difference between honoring and obeying, but summed it up with a single phrase saying that we are obey until they go against the Word of God

[kross]

Kross,

I don't understand, what do you mean by "abomination of the Lord"?

I think Irish gave an awesome post on the difference between honoring and obeying, but summed it up with a single phrase saying that we are obey until they go against the Word of God

NOt "abomination" Admonition Which I probably spelled wrong. Growing in up in the guidance of the LORD.

ROFL, sorry I can't help it, I really need to learn to spell.

[kittylover0991]

Kross,

I don't understand, what do you mean by "abomination of the Lord"?

I think Irish gave an awesome post on the difference between honoring and obeying, but summed it up with a single phrase saying that we are obey until they go against the Word of God

NOt "abomination" Admonition Which I probably spelled wrong. Growing in up in the guidance of the LORD.

ROFL, sorry I can't help it, I really need to learn to spell.

lol you spelled it just fine. I need to read

I think you are right, but at the same time... it's being told not to do what is right when there are means that it can be done.. I'm sorry I keep going back and forth on this, but I've been told all of my life that I am just to obey my parents unless they go against God... then that if they tell me I can't go to church, then I need to be an example for the Lord and obey them with a good attitude. However, as I get older, I am not questioning that "advice" that I had been given... .my bible says to obey God over man.... it doesnt' say just the gov't, but man...

[kross]

Kross,

I don't understand, what do you mean by "abomination of the Lord"?

I think Irish gave an awesome post on the difference between honoring and obeying, but summed it up with a single phrase saying that we are obey until they go against the Word of God

NOt "abomination" Admonition Which I probably spelled wrong. Growing in up in the guidance of the LORD.

ROFL, sorry I can't help it, I really need to learn to spell.

lol you spelled it just fine. I need to read

I think you are right, but at the same time... it's being told not to do what is right when there are means that it can be done.. I'm sorry I keep going back and forth on this, but I've been told all of my life that I am just to obey my parents unless they go against God... then that if they tell me I can't go to church, then I need to be an example for the Lord and obey them with a good attitude. However, as I get older, I am not questioning that "advice" that I had been given... .my bible says to obey God over man.... it doesnt' say just the gov't, but man...

You may not have read my post after I ammended it. You are an adult and you need to obey JESUS. You are at the time inyour life where a choice needs to be made and the only arguement you have put forward not to is that you will be paid well to not obey what you believe is GOD's leading.

I could tell you alol of my leaps of faith, but obeying is the only good option. I mean obeying JESUS as you feel HIM leading you right now.

[kittylover0991]

Thank you kross, thank you everyone. I really appreciate that.

I guess at this point I'm going to see how this next month plays out while I'm at home becuas ethen I go back to school, but I'm not missing church all summer long (4 months). We'll see how God works... thank you