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[mizzdy]

You know what's interesting too. Catholics call themselves Christians which can cause confusion when someone says that he's a Christian.

Probably a better question would be how many are born again through the blood of Yeshua Jesus and on fire for Him???!!!!

Maybe born again Christians should call themselves "believers" instead. The name "Christian" doesn't have the best reputation either.

Many people can't separate christianity from religion and your right the name often invokes thoughts of intolerance and we just can't have that in this day and age of political correctness. One of the problems is that so many do not see that Christ is the way into the Kingdom of God. Another problem I see that shows through in that article is that all these people are looking to a church, traditions, new agey feelings to define the doctrines but never once does it mention the bible being the guide to truth and the kingdom. I have called myself a bible believer on many occasions, I have gotten a few strange looks though.

[kross]

Surprisingly, most of them are more fanatical about righteous living and holiness than most orthodox Christians, which makes the point very valid.

The cults, the Mormons, the Catholics, the JW's, and even the muslims are very works oriented organize religions. The only real split in what truely following GOD means, is amoung orthodox Christians.

From what I have noticed anyway.

[kross]

Shalom Dave,

If you have the authority from the secular Jewish person, you can talk to them anmd do freindship evangelsim. I Agree. However, that is not the case in most instances. Most of the time they will get up and leave your presence if you are not already good friends with them or they will politely ask you to shut your mouth. Make the Jewish person Jealous by leading them toward the Laws of Moses. They will find salvation not in the Law but by going to synagogue. I have been in the presence of many Rabbis who do not outwardly claim that they beleive in Yeshua as the Messiah, but they are spirit filled nonetheless.

Also, the apparent NO to Yeshua as the Messiah, is a resounding YES to the Abrahamic Covenant. That is what G-d has been trying to get them to do for centuries. And it is what G-d asked all of the 70 Nations to take on at Mt. Sinai, but they rejected the Laws of Moses then. Sound familiar?

And then many beleivers say all you have to do is go to church when ALL Jews are commanded to live by the Abrahmaic Covenant. Yes, I disagree with my "Jews for Jesus" brethren on this issue as well. Every Jew is commanded to live by the Laws of Moses even if they beleive that Yeshua is the Messiah. Otherwise, there will be NO JEWS left for our Messiah to come to. Jews and the Nation of Israel needs to worship like Jews have always done or Israel is not a Jewish Nation.This is also another reason that most Jewish people reject Yeshua as tehir Messiah. They have to give up what we love. G-d Himself gave the Laws of Moses to our people so if we reject the Laws of Moses we reject G-d the Father of Yeshua Jesus.

To our brethren that stated that christians should call themselves beleivers in Yeshua Jesus. You hit the mark. Bullseye! While many Catholics are born again and spirit filled, the governing organization is not and they are not christians - the Pope and the Cardinals, specifically. I wont speak for every individual, but many of teh cardinals who have power to elect the pope serve Jesus by day and worship satan at night. Yes. That is exactly what some of them do at night.

Make the religious Jewish person Jealous as commanded in the scriptures. Even the Jewish people will agree to that! Resoundingly agree! If someone speaks against or disregards the Laws of Moses is put to death on the witnesses of 2 or three witnesses Hebrews 10:28-31.

Shalom my brethren,

Yacov

[Guest Yacov]

Shalom Dave,

I have been in the presence of many Rabbis who do not outwardly claim that they beleive in Yeshua as the Messiah, but they are spirit filled nonetheless.

This statement among many proves the scriptures. I do have a question for you; what spirit are those rabbi's filled with? Jesus, is the life-giving Spirit, so if they are not filled with Him, who are they filled with?

Also, to not believe on Him is to be condemned...this is what the Word states.

Shalom senior member,

As I ahve stated previously, many Rabbis do not openly claim to beleive that Yeshua is the Messiah. Please note the word "openly." They cannot. Not yet. That time is coming, but it aint here yet. They may speak it quietly to certain christians who beleive, certain Messianic Jews who they find trustmorthy and are trustworthy enough to keep their mouths shut. If you do not know Halakah or Jewish Law then you will not understand this point. They can teach the ways of Yeshua, but not openly state his name. It is not time yet. Hve you ever done any undercover work? Have you ever done any Military Intelligence work? Have you ever done any Special Operations - Green Beret type work?

"Missionizing" is illegal and not needed. At least not after nearly 1700 years of persecution, rape, murder, theft, forced conversions which are false anyway, and all this done in the name of Jesus. The Jesus of the Catechisms.

Search your spirit and you will know the above is true.

There are people who claim to be a beleiver, but there is a difference between loving G-d and being in Love with G-d. If you love G-d, you may go to a place of worship. But to be in Love with G-d is to love the Nation of Israel and the Jewish people.. Become a friend to them. It may take 2 or 3 years before they trust you enuff to allow you to speak about Yeshua Jesus.

If you know anything about the end times prophecies, you know that the Jewish people will come to know hwo our Messiah is. To openly and try evangelize them is in violation of the Great Commission because you will not get anywhere with it. So why even bother? Love the Ones that G-d has NEVER DIVORCED and they may let you into their lives in order to complete the Great Commission. Otherwise, do nto bother. You do Yeshua Commands a disgrace and make his commands to you irrelevant.

[Guest Yacov]

Yes, it is a slap in the face to a people whose only understanding of Jesus is someone who is willing to rape them, murder them, steal from them, make false assucations about them. Yes. It is a slap in the face.

Which Christ are you talking about?

The only one that most Jews know about is the one in the Catechisms who was a son of a cerpenter who carved images of flying birds, threw them in the air and they flew away. According to Torah this is witchcraft, socery and is forbiddden. The followers of this same Jesus were Crusaders. Jews think of Crusaders who murdered, raped - men, women, and children, all in the name of Jesus. Historical fact. People who called themselves Christians and most people still to this day call them christians slaughtered 6 million Jews and 1.75 Million Messianic Jews, as well as other chirstians. The same followers of Jesus were involved with the Pogroms. Yes, they are afriad of those who call Martin Luther a good man. He flat out stated in his book entitled "Concerning the Jews and their Lies" to put them Jews in the sysnagogues, with their books, lock th synagogues and burn the synagogues to the ground. Yes. Mr. Protestant Himself.

So I ask you again brethren: Which Christ are you talking about?

The reason this has happened is because the chuch has forgotten its Jewish roots. Easter meant Passover to the Romans before 325 CE. It took nearly 100 years to get the fenition of what we cnow call Easter in one case presented by Origin Himself. That is where we get the term "back alley attorney from. Mr. Origin. A church Father.

So I ask you again brethren, which Christ are you talking about?

I know who the historical Yeshua was. The historical Yeshua was not the above. He would NEVER have told his followers to hate his own people that He loved so much!

SO I ask you again, which Christ are you talking about?

Before you can answer your question, you must live with reality. Todays reality. This is not living in the past. This is present tense here. WHy would ANY JEW follow the teachings of ANYONE called Jesus with ALL the historical and viscious hatred that surrounds history? My brethren, you cannot get into the batters box with ANY JEW about ANYONE called Jesus because of this. So how else do you propose that you can COMPLETE YOUR ASSIGNMENT called the Great Commission?

Shalom,

Yacov

[Guest Yacov]

Yes, it is a slap in the face to a people whose only understanding of Jesus is someone who is willing to rape them, murder them, steal from them, make false assucations about them. Yes. It is a slap in the face.

Which Christ are you talking about?

The only one that most Jews know about is the one in the Catechisms who was a son of a cerpenter who carved images of flying birds, threw them in the air and they flew away. According to Torah this is witchcraft, socery and is forbiddden. The followers of this same Jesus were Crusaders. Jews think of Crusaders who murdered, raped - men, women, and children, all in the name of Jesus. Historical fact. People who called themselves Christians and most people still to this day call them christians slaughtered 6 million Jews and 1.75 Million Messianic Jews, as well as other chirstians. The same followers of Jesus were involved with the Pogroms. Yes, they are afriad of those who call Martin Luther a good man. He flat out stated in his book entitled "Concerning the Jews and their Lies" to put them Jews in the sysnagogues, with their books, lock th synagogues and burn the synagogues to the ground. Yes. Mr. Protestant Himself.

So I ask you again brethren: Which Christ are you talking about?

The reason this has happened is because the chuch has forgotten its Jewish roots. Easter meant Passover to the Romans before 325 CE. It took nearly 100 years to get the fenition of what we cnow call Easter in one case presented by Origin Himself. That is where we get the term "back alley attorney from. Mr. Origin. A church Father.

So I ask you again brethren, which Christ are you talking about?

I know who the historical Yeshua was. The historical Yeshua was not the above. He would NEVER have told his followers to hate his own people that He loved so much!

SO I ask you again, which Christ are you talking about?

Before you can answer your question, you must live with reality. Todays reality. This is not living in the past. This is present tense here. WHy would ANY JEW follow the teachings of ANYONE called Jesus with ALL the historical and viscious hatred that surrounds history? My brethren, you cannot get into the batters box with ANY JEW about ANYONE called Jesus because of this. So how else do you propose that you can COMPLETE YOUR ASSIGNMENT called the Great Commission?

Shalom,

Yacov

My friend let's not be deceptive. You know Who I am talking about, the Christ that was nailed to the Cross, was buried, raised the third Day. The One that Acended into heaven in front of His disciples. The One who those of us who belive are hid in. I'm talking about Jesus, Son of mary, Brother of James, Most of all Son of God. The One who's own family didn't acutully see Him. The one the Israel missed because they looked for a "different" approach. They looked for a temporary kingdom. I'm talking about the Christ whom Paul, Peter, John, Apollos, Barnabus, James, Jude....and many others testified to. I'm talking about the Christ...the Way, the Truth, and the Life. That is the Jesus I'm talking about. I speak of no other. Men may have changed, and some even the attempt to make Christ in thier image, but, He has not changed. And for those of us who seek after Him, we do find Him, the real Him.

Ok brither.

So how do you propose Accomplishing "The Mission" that Christ gave you to do when in the minds of many Jewish people that the "ONLY REASON" that christains want to get close to them they want to "convert?" It happened last year when the christians attempted to put on an evening with Israel. One church actually promoted it as a "time to convert them Jews!"

Why not just try something simple. You have heard of the 2 Great Commandments, correct? Love your G-d with all your heart, mind, and strength. You cannot prove that you do love G-d without doing the other. If you love Yeshua, will you "LOVE the Jewish People?" Just simply befriend them and keep your beleifs to yourself. They know you are a christian. When and if they are curious they will ask. Talk about Jewish things. Make them jealous about how much you know about scripture. Talk to them about "their" commandments and point them to that. If you know more about their commandments than they do, is it reasonable to assume that you are opening doors to speak about Yeshua?

Just be a normal human being and stop "trying to convert" them to beleive in Yeshua. Brother, we do not have much time left before the Messiah comes. The Jewish people are beleivers. Quit speaking as if they are going to hell. They are not and scripture backs me up on this for it clearly states in what you would call the New Testament that "ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED." So if your bible states that, why do you persist and call them a heathen? Why do you treat them like a heathen? Your statement implies that they are a heathen. That is how Anti-Semitism is fed and I do not think that you would desire to be in that camp.

When the Jewish people see that you are a normal person they will erlax around you. They wont let down their guard, but you must build a trust relationship with them or nothing you do will help you on the exam called "The Great Commission." Be a friend of Israel and do not stab G-d in the Apple of His Eye.