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We allknow that God cast Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden,but I waswondering how did He keep them out? Did He post an angel at the gate? Anyone ever wonder where The Garden of Eden might be today? I know it must be between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, but I wonder if it really exists to this day,and why we can't find it. Isn't there something called The Fertile Crescent over there? Shiloh62

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Genesis 3:24 says ...

After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

It may very well still be there, we just can't see it. Gods word does not tell us that it was removed.


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The Bible does not give us any specifics other than the verse posted above


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I have an opinion about the location of the Garden of Eden, but I won't go into it since I am still researching my thoughts. Yes, Onelight gave the verse I was going to give and that tells us that God made sure nobody could get back in. Once the Flood covered the earth and the great changes in geography happened, if very well could be buried deep in the ocean now. It is speculation, though. God was very serious about not allowing them back in.

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I have an opinion about the location of the Garden of Eden, but I won't go into it since I am still researching my thoughts. Yes, Onelight gave the verse I was going to give and that tells us that God made sure nobody could get back in. Once the Flood covered the earth and the great changes in geography happened, if very well could be buried deep in the ocean now. It is speculation, though. God was very serious about not allowing them back in.

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I read about this thought also, and the site even had a map. answersingenesis Another thought that I read was that the flood removed it from the earth, what once was Eden is now only sand. Neither can be proven, so I just keep it in the back of my mind .... another one of those questions that will be answered some day!


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Ok, so I'll go out on a limb here and say what I am mulling over. It is possible -- just possible so don't jump all over me -- that it is still there but in a dimension which we cannot see. Ok...I've said it. This is what I am researching into. Many years ago a Jewish Rabbi came to the conclusion (from studying the Torah) that there are 10 diminsions (no, this is not Kabalah). Due to quantum physics, scientists have also come to this same conclusion. God put a Cherub to guard the entrance, and if you read about the power of a cherub you will see that it would be nothing for one to keep Adam and Eve away.....but to keep a fallen cherub out? That would take another cherub. It's just a "theory" and I do not expect anyone to agree. :emot-hug:

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I have an opinion about the location of the Garden of Eden, but I won't go into it since I am still researching my thoughts. Yes, Onelight gave the verse I was going to give and that tells us that God made sure nobody could get back in. Once the Flood covered the earth and the great changes in geography happened, if very well could be buried deep in the ocean now. It is speculation, though. God was very serious about not allowing them back in.

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I read about this thought also, and the site even had a map. answersingenesis Another thought that I read was that the flood removed it from the earth, what once was Eden is now only sand. Neither can be proven, so I just keep it in the back of my mind .... another one of those questions that will be answered some day!

Thats true-only God knowsthe stories I've heard are that it may be beneath the Dead Sea,but then again, I have heard that said about Sodom and Gommorah too. I love reading Biblical Archeology Review and finding out what they have discovered.


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Ok, so I'll go out on a limb here and say what I am mulling over. It is possible -- just possible so don't jump all over me -- that it is still there but in a dimension which we cannot see. Ok...I've said it. This is what I am researching into. Many years ago a Jewish Rabbi came to the conclusion (from studying the Torah) that there are 10 diminsions (no, this is not Kabalah). Due to quantum physics, scientists have also come to this same conclusion. God put a Cherub to guard the entrance, and if you read about the power of a cherub you will see that it would be nothing for one to keep Adam and Eve away.....but to keep a fallen cherub out? That would take another cherub. It's just a "theory" and I do not expect anyone to agree. :emot-hug:

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You been talking to Neb? :emot-hug:

On a more serious note, I heard that before also, but since I know nothing about quantum physics, nor would I be able to understand anything written about it, I never sought it out.


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Ok, so I'll go out on a limb here and say what I am mulling over. It is possible -- just possible so don't jump all over me -- that it is still there but in a dimension which we cannot see. Ok...I've said it. This is what I am researching into. Many years ago a Jewish Rabbi came to the conclusion (from studying the Torah) that there are 10 diminsions (no, this is not Kabalah). Due to quantum physics, scientists have also come to this same conclusion. God put a Cherub to guard the entrance, and if you read about the power of a cherub you will see that it would be nothing for one to keep Adam and Eve away.....but to keep a fallen cherub out? That would take another cherub. It's just a "theory" and I do not expect anyone to agree. :emot-hug:

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I wouldn't say that dimensions are so far fetched. Time is one, space is another from what I have read we function in 4 dimensions. I think Chuck Missler did a study on that sometime ago but I can't remember all he said about it. And I think it is Michio Kaku who expounded on this subject years ago. I am not scientist though! But when the bible talks about the heavens plural it does make one wonder if some sort of dimensions is what they are descriping.


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What we DO know is that the Garden was somewhere in the area of what we know today as Iraq. There was originally a single river which flowed out of Eden and divided into four smaller watercourses, the Pishon, Gihon, Tigris and Euphrates. The latter two still exist. The former two do not, having been broken up in the Noahic flood. I am of the belief that the Keruv (Cherubim warrior angels) once stationed there have been relieved of that duty since there is now effectively no way to find the entrance except through belief in Christ Jesus.

Revelation 2:7 says that the Overcomer will be allowed to eat from the Tree of Life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God. Obviously, the Garden is still existing. It does NOT exist on our plane of existence, it exists where the LORD is.

Eden may well have been the portal between the material plane and the spiritual plane, but since the Scripture is not clear in the matter, speculating is useless.

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