Lazarus

[kat8585]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

[kross]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

JESUS would say he was just asleep. Now he is dead.

[Hunterpoet]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

Hi Kat...I can't find it...the verse that says men are appointed to die once and then the judgment. My word search keep returning to many results.

[Hunterpoet]

Thank you Ezekiel

I went to my commentaries.

Geneva Bible Notes: He speaks of the natural state of man. For though Lazarus and certain others died twice, that was no usual thing, but extraordinary and as for them that shall be changed, their changing is a kind of death.

He doesn't give scriptural evidence of Lazuras and the others dieing twice, so it must be the assumption that they did.

[kat8585]

They had to have. But then what about Heb. 9.27? I still don't get it.

[Hunterpoet]

They had to have. But then what about Heb. 9.27? I still don't get it.

well even though Lazarus and others were chosen to live twice, and only for the Glory of God, I'm sure they were only judged once.

I think it may be necessary to focus on why they were raised from the dead. Especially Lazarus.

Also , concerning Heb.9:27, the commentaries suggest that this is to illustrate that Christ would only die once for our sins and not have to die yearly like the sacrifices which were made in the OT for the forgiveness of sin.

[BlindSeeker]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

If the "once" referred to clinical death then what about those who have been resuscitated . . . some more than "once?"

The emphasis is not to die "once," but rather when we die there is one judgment.

I used to live in a place called Lago Grande, which meant big lake. But if we were to keep it in the order of the Spanish, it would have been lake big. Point being, other languages sometimes place their adjectives in different order when compared to the English rendering.

[kat8585]

If the "once" referred to clinical death then what about those who have been resuscitated . . . some more than "once?"

That wasn't possible in those days. If someone is resuscitated, they weren't dead in God's eyes, or it wouldn't have happened.

[Bryanfromiowa]

here is the full text of the verse and chapter in question if you read the entire thing it takes on a different meaning

Hebrews 23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebrews 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many;

Its part of an illustration explaining our salvation not a law or rule.

Edited January 26, 2009 by Bryanfromiowa

[Hunterpoet]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

If the "once" referred to clinical death then what about those who have been resuscitated . . . some more than "once?"

The emphasis is not to die "once," but rather when we die there is one judgment.

I used to live in a place called Lago Grande, which meant big lake. But if we were to keep it in the order of the Spanish, it would have been lake big. Point being, other languages sometimes place their adjectives in different order when compared to the English rendering.

If I remember correctly..clinical death...implies lack of brain activity, an example being someone on life support with no brain activity would be clinically dead. Having taken part in numerous resuscitations, folks who are dead, well...stay dead. We always referred to it as someone being in trouble, as opposed to having died. If the resuscitation was successful, we never thought of them as having died.