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  2. Are you saying that Jesus said that WHEN He was commissioning the apostles? It would be helpful to quote the verse you are thinking of. I need to see the context. Neither do I.
  3. If you read my comments more closely you would see that my grandfather and uncle travelled the world preaching and they were also the Leader of the denomination in Australia and New Zealand. That is a wide scope. Note the Apostolic Church of which I speak only started in the early 1900`s after the Welsh Revival. There have been many who use that name but are not the same denomination. Now that the 5 fold ministries has been clarified, (or being) across the Body then we are all of `one-mind` so far and denominational names do not mean what they used to. As also other names, Baptist, and most denominations believe and practice that without having to have that name.
  4. Huh? I explained my confusion. What "term" are you referring to that is not found in Scripture. In a previous post, I noted what the Greek word for "good news" means, which is good news. And the Bible is full of lots of different kinds of good news. The GC is clearly about the gospel that saves. Rom 1:16 Not any other kind. That is all covered in the OT. Paul preached 'from the Scriptures' that Jesus is the Messiah. That includes the prophesied death on the cross. Nothing directly. Christ's death paid the full sin penalty for everyone. So that satisfies God's justice and allows grace to those who believe. No, I only pointed out that v.9-20 aren't found in the earliest and most reliable manuscripts. Do you disagree? What evidence do you have that those verses are found in the earliest manuscripts? And what is your point anyway about snake handling, when the OP is about to whom the GC was given? Seems like a dodge to me. What? Peter was among the "inner circle" of apostles, along with James and John. Next to Paul, Peter gets more "face time" in Acts than any other apostle. Why do you say Peter is to be discarded. And Peter did follow Jesus. Yes, there were hiccups. That didn't disqualify him. Could you provide where I supposedly "discarded" what you claim here? I haven't even mentioned Abel. Exactly! Most believers are quite unaware of that. And have no idea what EXACTLY does 'come to life'. Regeneration regards the human spirit, which DIED "on that day" when Adam ate the forbidden fruit. That resulted in spiritual death, which is reversed when one places their faith/trust in the finished work of Christ and they (their dead human spirit) is born again. "on what basis"? What kind of question is that? The Bible speaks clearly about a new heaven and earth in Rev 21. And I don't "refuse" anything that you have been accusing me of. Yes and yes. Where are you going with this? You're losing me here. The paragraph seems to wander. I don't know what you are talking about. As to Matt 7:21-23, the GLARING absence is faith. There is no mention of it among anyone in that crowd. One has to ASSUME they did have faith. But it that were true, and all of them are kept out of the kingdom (heaven), then Jesus wasn't telling the truth in John 10:28, because He said those He gives eternal life "shall never perish". I absolutely believe that. And back in John 5:24, Jesus said that whoever believes HAS (means possess) eternal life. Therefore, the MOMENT one believes (is a believer), HAS eternal life. So, eternal security is from the MOMENT one believes in Christ for salvation. Matt 7:21-23 has been very misunderstood by a lot of people. What was the basis for their appeal for entering the kingdom? Their own works. Period. Yes, they address Him as Lord. So what. That's just formality religion to them. They were works-salvation oriented and that is why Jesus rejected them. They had no faith in Christ. Another misunderstood text! Jesus never got to how to enter the kingdom. The RYR was seeking affirmation by a rabbi and he bragged about how he had been "keeping the law", since his youth, no less. Well, bully bully. But Jesus knew his thoughts and nailed him gently by telling him to sell everything and give it all to the poor, and then follow Him. His response? He went away SAD. Why? Because he loved his money MORE THAN he was keeping the very first command. Jesus pointed out to him that he wasn't even keeping the first commandment, so all his bragging was trashed in one fell swoop! Jesus in NO WAY taught him that he would be saved by keeping the law. Of course it is. The righteousness of the Pharisees was based on keeping the law. iow, works salvation, which Jesus condemned. How does one have a righteousness that exceeds the Pharisees? To have imputed righteousness that comes ONLY from faith in Christ. Romans 3 and 4 clearly teach that God imputes Christ's righteousness to those who believe in Christ for salvation. Another very misunderstood set of texts. First, in NONE of the passages is there any idea, much less words, about being "ejected from the kingdom". You seem to be reading much more INTO the text than what is there. In 1 Cor 6 and Gal 5, the wording is "not inherit the kingdom", while in Eph 5 the wording is "have no inheritance IN the kingdom". Yet, all 3 passages are parallel in that all include a list of sinful lifestyles. So, to "not inherit the kingdom" is equivalent to "have no inheritance IN the kingdom". So why do I capitalize the word 'in'? For emphasis. iow, such a believer DOES get IN the kingdom, but will have no inheritance there. In Scripture, inheritance is used in 2 ways. One way is the obvious inheritance of being God's child. Rom 8:17a. But there is another type of inheritance that is EARNED, and is about reward in eternity. Rom 8:17b. That parable is also about eternal reward, or LOSS thereof, based on lifestyle. Not loss of salvation. I believe I've proven from Scripture that Paul will have his name on the 12th foundation of the New Jerusalem. From all you've posted and the verses you've commented on indicate that you have been following the TRADITION of works for salvation. Just like the Pharisees of Jesus' day. Eph 2:8,9 are the clearest verses that refute any and every form of works salvation. No one will enter heaven based on works, lifestyle, etc. Do you know what eternal condemnation will be based on? John 3:18 - Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 2 Thess 2:12 - and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. Same words in both verses: "have not believed". Do you know what that really means? Have NEVER believed. That is who will be condemned. Anyone who HAS believed HAS eternal life (John 5:24) and shall never perish (John 10:28).
  5. Hi Ad Hoc, I did answer your arguments. I said - Those qualifications were ONLY for the 12 Apostles of the Lamb, (for Israel). They were to witness to Israel of the Lord and Christ. (Acts 2; 36) The other Apostles were given when Christ ascended to the Father and are for the building up of the Body of Christ. The 5 fold ministries are of Christ`s Headship and certainly needed till we come to full maturity as a Body in Christ. (Eph. 4: 11 - 13) Then I gave a list of 8 Apostles of the ascended Lord. None of those walked with the Lord or saw Him ascend. That was NOT the qualifications of the Apostles to the Body of Christ.
  6. GODS SALAVATION = HEAVEN / EVERLASTING LIFE --- NOT MANS WISDOM OR WORDS HEBREWS 5:8 though HE were a son yet learned HE obedience by the things which HE suffered --5:9-- and being made perfect --HE-- became the author of eternal --SALVATION-- UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM-- PSALM 119:155 SALVATION IS FAR FROM THE WICKED ---for they seek not thy statutes--- PSALM 12:8 the wicked walk on every side --- when the vilest men are exalted PSALM 75:10 all the horns of the wicked also will I cut off --- but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted PSALM 25:5 lead me in thy --TRUTH-- and teach me --- for thou art the GOD of my ---SALVATION--- on thee do I wait all the day ISAIAH 12:3 therefore with joy shall you draw water out of the wells of salvation PSALM 25:10 all the paths of THE LORD are mercy and truth ---UNTO SUCH AS KEEP HIS COVENANT AND HIS TESTIMONIES--- ACTS 13:26 men and brethren children of the stock of abraham and whosoever among you feareth GOD ---to you is the --WORD-- of this salvation sent--- ACTS 11:14 who shall tell thee --WORDS-- whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved PSALM 119:41 let thy mercies come also unto me O LORD even ---THY SALVATION ACCORDING TO THY WORD--- ACTS 28:28 BE IT KNOWN THEREFORE UNTO YOU THAT THE --SALVATION OF GOD-- is sent unto the gentiles and that they will hear it JOHN 5:34 but I receive not testimony from man but these things I say that you --MIGHT BE SAVED-- LAMENTATION 3:26 it is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the ---SALVATION OF THE LORD--- PHILIPPANS 2:12 wherefore my beloved as you have always obeyed not as in my presence only but now much more in my absence --work out your own salvation with fear and trembling-- ROMANS 13:11 and that knowing the time that now it is high time to awake out of sleep --for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed-- MATTHEW 10:22 and you shall be hated of all men for MY names sake ---but he that endureth to the end shall be saved--- 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10 and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish because they ---received not the love of the truth that they might be saved-- LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
  7. I won't go into details, but I have witnessed blood sacrifices to Lilith manifest demonic entities that would enter people to do the wishes of those doing the rituals. She will loan her personal demons to you under certain circumstances. It's not something to mess with or take lightly.
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  9. The movement that came from those who set up the Lucis Trust are the background for the spiritual side of the Nazis. It morphed into the New Age Religion and moved into the UN way back in the early 80s. You can read about them in a book by Constance Cumbey called Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow. They are basic evil. I was told by members that they understood they were setting up the structure for the Antichrist and thought it was great to do so. It's been a couple of decades since I was researching their doings largely because doing so exposed me to some serious demonic forces. It is OK to know who they are, but not safe to really get inside their workings for the deeper you get the more the demonic world opens itself up to you.
  10. My first sentence was a comment, followed by a rhetorical question to which I think all should know the answer. IMHO, we will exhaust eternity before we fully comprehend the essence of God. Now, can we gain a basic understanding through God’s word and through His Spirit (again rhetorical)? of course. Yet all understanding must have a foundation to properly build on, and of course, the larger the building the deeper and stronger foundation is required. I appreciate your sharing your thoughts here, and I recognize that your interpretation of that verse is possibly the most common one, one which I once shared. However, I abandoned it over the years through more time and study. I view the “hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory” to be the method of redemption, which Paul as a wise master builder laid the foundation of, which is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. On that alone we build, for it forever be the center point of eternity. However, we can see that before His crucifixion even the very disciples of Christ were holding to the popular mindset that Messiah was going to come and bring an end to the Roman rule and re-establish the nation of Israel in an even greater glory than its former. It is evident that neither the Jews nor the Romans conceived what God’s Messiah was really going to do, and how it was going to be accomplished, for their eyes had never before seen, nor their ears ever hear of such a thing, that a King would come and defeat his enemies and redeem his people by allowing himself to be captured, tortured, and killed. Nor was it conceivable in their mind, that once a man so brutally killed could victoriously rise again. Especially not the Pharisees, or the Romans, or Pilate, “for had they known they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Nevertheless, this is exactly the message and foundation foretold by the prophets, on which all the glorious “things which God has prepared for them that love Him” would forever be established. You are correct, that no man can understand Jesus as the Christ unless the Father reveals it to them through the Spirit. For yes, comprehending is a necessary attribute of all learning. But I am persuaded the saints eternity will be a forever learning of line upon line, precept upon precept, as God continues to reveal the glory He wrought in Christ Jesus. If hell is a dark bottomless pit for the wicked who have only memories of their iniquities, heaven is a bright glorious mountain of knowledge of which the summit of understanding will never be reached, and will be glory upon glory upon glory forever, revelations upon revelations of the endless height and depth and width of God’s love for His creatures. Certainly, there is much gleaning to be had from the scriptures as to what the Father and the Son are doing. But like the scriptures, we cannot know the correct answer unless we have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying. As it says in Ecclesiastics, " for every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven." Just like "when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son" and at the appropriate day and hour He'll return. But Ecclesiastics states regard time and seasons, there is "a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted... a time to break down, and a time to build up... a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together... a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away... a time of war, and a time of peace." But how do we know what time it is? Some seasonal things are fairly obvious, but not all things are timed upon seasons. Such is why we are to earnest in our watching and praying, and studying to be still and quiet before the Lord, that we might hear His voice. Indeed, the scripture are the sure word of prophecy, but hearing is critical in order for us to truly be about the business of the Lord. Personally, I believe much judgment has been past already and that wrath is yet to fall. Like Habakkuk said, "For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie. Though it tarry, wait for it, because it will surely come." So, right now, what is the Father doing in America, and worldwide? I submit the following as to what I believe - Hebrews 12:26 - Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifying the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29 For our God is a consuming fire. Now, more than ever we need to be watching and praying as the time draws near when "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still, and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." Now it is more critical then ever to redeem the time with both labor for the Kingdom and prayer for the lost. And Jesus? Apart from watching all things, I believe that due to His knowing the brevity of time is earnest in intercession for His saints sanctification and success in their missions to take the power of the Gospel to the lost. May God give us the ears to hear and a spirit of discernment to know the time we are in... Luke 19:41 - And when Jesus was come near, he beheld the city and wept over it, 42 Saying, "If you had only known, even at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto your peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes... 44 [but] because you knew not the time..."
  11. several years ago they did a civil defense test and moved about 4 million people underground in a bit over 30 minutes in Moscow. They have a huge underground subways and shelters. They have kept up their civil defense plans and their military thinks they can win an all out nuclear war. Especially if they start it and have people go to safety from the start. So we should be a little uneasy when they do these tests.
  12. While the Lord was addressing the 11 apostles, the Lord also stated that all who believe in Him will do the miracles He did, and greater miracles. So your saying that it was only about the 11 apostles, makes what He said about all who believe in Him doing the miracles He did, and greater miracles, void. I therefore do not agree with a perspective that denies the Word.
  13. By T.A. DeFeo | The Center Square contributor (Worthy News) – The Republican governors of two dozen states, including Georgia and South Carolina, penned a letter to President Joe Biden opposing the World Health Organization’s proposed “Pandemic Agreement,” which they said could “undermine national sovereignty” and states’ rights. The state executives argue the treaty “would seek to elevate the WHO from an advisory body to a global authority in public health.” They contend the proposed accord could also allow the WHO to establish “a global surveillance infrastructure” and force participants to censor free speech. On Tuesday, 93.3% of voters in Georgia’s Republican primary said “unelected and unaccountable international bureaucrats,” such as those at the WHO, should not have “complete control over management of future pandemics in the United States and authority to regulate your healthcare and personal health choices.” The vote is nonbinding, but it could guide legislative action when Peach State lawmakers meet again next year. In their letter, the governors said that “if adopted, these agreements would seek to elevate the WHO from an advisory body to a global authority in public health. “Under the proposed amendments and treaty, the WHO’s Director-General would supposedly gain unilateral power to declare a ‘public health emergency of international concern’ (PHEIC) in member nations, extending beyond pandemics to include a range of perceived emergencies,” the governors added. The “proposals could erode state sovereignty by granting the WHO’s Director-General the authority to dictate responses to a declared PHEIC, stripping elected representatives of their role in setting public health policies and compelling citizens to comply with WHO directives, potentially including mandates regarding medical treatments.” Govs. Kay Ivey of Alabama, Mike Dunleavy of Alaska, Sarah Sanders of Arkansas, Ron DeSantis of Florida, Brian Kemp of Georgia, Brad Little of Idaho, Eric Holcomb of Indiana, Kim Reynolds of Iowa, Jeff Landry of Louisiana, Tate Reeves of Mississippi, Greg Gianforte of Montana, Jim Pillen of Nebraska, Joe Lombardo of Nevada, Chris Sununu of New Hampshire, Doug Burgum of North Dakota, Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma, Henry McMaster of South Carolina, Kristi Noem of South Dakota, Bill Lee of Tennessee, Greg Abbott of Texas, Spencer Cox of Utah, Glenn Youngkin of Virginia, Jim Justice of West Virginia and Mark Gordon of Wyoming signed the letter. Reprinted with permission from The Center Square. The post Republican Governors Sign Letter Opposing WHO treaty appeared first on Worthy Christian News. View the full article
  14. Shalom, IgnatioDeLoyola. Acts 11:26 (KJV) 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. The Greek of this verse is ... 11:26 καὶ εὑρὼν αὐτὸν ἤγαγεν αὐτόν εἰς Ἀντιόχειαν ἐγένετο δὲ αὐτούς ἐνιαυτὸν ὅλον συναχθῆναι ἐν τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ καὶ διδάξαι ὄχλον ἱκανόν χρηματίσαι τε πρώτον ἐν Ἀντιοχείᾳ τοὺς μαθητὰς Χριστιανούς. We may transliterate the Greek like this ... 11:26 Kai euroon auton eegagen auton eis Antiocheian egeneto de autous eniauton holon sunachtheenai en tee ekkleesia kai didaxai ochlon hikanon chreemartisai te prooton en Antiocheia tous matheetas Christianous. This may be translated word-for-word thus: 11:26 And when-he-had-found him, he-brought him into Antioch; it-happened-that but/and they a-year whole they-assembled in the called-out-(assembly) and taught people much; they-were-called and first in Antioch the students/disciples "Christians." A "Christianos," which is a diminutive of "Christos," first applied as a term of ridicule, means a "lesser Christ." Strong's says, "The name was first given to the worshippers of Jesus by the Gentiles, but from the second century (Justin Martyr (e. g. Apology 1, 4, p. 55 a.; dialog contra Trypho, § 35; cf. 'Teaching etc. 12, 4 [ET])) onward accepted by them as a title of honor." So, it's imperative that one first understand what the term "Christ" means: Strong's gives us this entry in the Greek dictionary: 5547 Christos Χριστός, οῦ, ὁ (khrees'-tos). From chrioo; Anointed One, i.e. The Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: -- Christ. 5548 chrioo χρίω (khree'-0). Probably akin to chraomai through the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, i.e. (by implication) to consecrate to an office or religious service: -- anoint. 5530 chraomai χράομαι (khrah'-om-ahee). Middle voice of a primary verb (perhaps rather from cheir, to handle); to furnish what is needed; (give an oracle, "graze" (touch slightly), light upon, etc.), i.e. (by implication) to employ or (by extension) to act towards one in a given manner: -- entreat, use. Compare chrao; chre. Yeeshuwa` haMaashiyach ("Jesus the Christ") was One so anointed by the Ruwach haQodesh 'Elohiym (the Holy Spirit of God) at His baptism (Acts 10:38). It was THERE that He became God's "Anointed One" - "Maashiyach" = "Messiah" - "Christ." Likewise, the Jewish disciples in Jerusalem were anointed with God's Spirit in Acts 2:1-4, and the Gentile disciples in Caesaria in Acts 10:44. I would be remiss if I failed to mention that "Messiah" ("Messias") comes from the Hebrew word "Maashiyach": John 4:25-26 (KJV) 25 The woman saith unto him, "I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things." 26 Jesus saith unto her, "I that speak unto thee am he." 3323 Messias Μεσσίας, ου, ὁ (mes-see'-as). Of Hebrew origin (maashiyach); the Messias (i.e. Mashiach), or Christ: -- Messias. 4899 Maashiyach (Mashiach) מָשִׁיחַ (maw-shee'-akh). From maashach; anointed; usually a consecrated person (as a king, priest, or saint); specifically, the Messiah: -- anointed, Messiah. 4886 maashach (mashach) מָשַׁח (maw-shakh'). A primitive root; to rub with oil, i.e. To anoint; by implication, to consecrate; also to paint: -- anoint, paint. More later...
  15. Thank you brother. Hopefully I can clear up the contradiction. Marilyn addresses a LOCAL Assembly. God's Household is the UNIVERSAL Church. She answered apples with pears. But I have a question for you. What Apostle raised up the Church in Rome?
  16. I am a little nonplussed. Up until now you have proven above average insight suddenly you claim ignorance. I suspect a trap. Do you think that the Holy Spirit made no difference between the various gospels, but called them by different names anyway? What gospel of Christ's death did the 70 preach when He had not yet died?What will the death of Christ hep the poor? To avoid addressing me you discard Mark 16. First Peter is to be discarded without an answer although the King had said that they were to occupy 12 thrones - and the qualification was "... you who have followed me ... ". Now you discard the fact that because of Abel the earth was cursed by the cry of Abel's blood, but now we have One Who's blood flowed into the earth "and speaks better things than Abel's blood". The "regeneration" means just that - something that has been dormant for a long time suddenly comes to life (Mat.19:28). But even if you refuse that, on what basis does God introduce a "New Heaven and a New Earth" if the old is under curse? Did not the shed blood, sexual immorality and idol worship pollute the Land? Does not the creation groan now awaiting the "sons' of God resurrection"? As to the gospel of grace versus the gospel of the kingdom, I will not speak at length. In Matthew 7:21-23 Believers, who knew Jesus and His coming Kingdom, claim the Kingdom. They did miracles in their lifetime in His name and belong to the same resurrection and the beam. They are not refused because of no faith. They are refused because of DISOBEDIENCE - their response to orders! And why did they not react "iniquitously". The Greek word "knew" means "intimate knowledge" - like Joseph not "knowing" Mary until Jesus was born. In Matthew 19 a rich man is plainly told to keep the Law to ENTER LIFE. But "ENTERING life" is used interchangeably with the Kingdom. And those disciples who listened to the Master's teaching for 3 + years, interchanged ENTERING the Kingdom with being saved! Is being saved from the Lake of Fire by the substitutionary death of Jesus the same as exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisees to enter the Kingdom. The grammar is plain. Has a mistake been made in 1st Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:21 and Ephesians 5:5 where WORKS will get one ejected from the Kingdom? What then shall we say about the talents in Matthew 25. The slothful is refused the kingdom for not WORKING the Master's money. And so on. Come now, esteemed brother. Reinstate Mark 16 and Peter's inspiration and we will together find who really survived the snakes! We need to affirm an Apostle. If not, and you maintain your position, well and good. I bid you God's blessings.
  17. Only to yourself. But you are a biased audience.
  18. ... because you're pretty much oblivious to what other people say, being so self-focused. Jesus returns in "the clouds of heaven," and every eye sees Him, and His elect are caught up in clouds to be with Him, and then God's wrath of judgements begin. This is what Word teaches. Not what you do. I believe the Word.
  19. So, that would include yourself. Obviously no one is perfect. Since you acknowledge that you don't think anyone is doing what Jesus did, that should be a clue as to whom Jesus was actually referring to. The apostles of Jesus' day. They DID do what Jesus did. So Jesus' comments were specifically about "the eleven". I think, rather, that you missed to whom Jesus was referring. I do agree that there are major problems within evangelicalism today. In fact, before the Tribulation, the Bible prophesies of "rebellion". The Greek word in 2 Thess 2:3 is: apostasia: defection, revolt. Basically, apostasy. It seems the world is on the threshold of the Great Tribulation. "Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction." 2 Thess 2:3 It seems to me evangelicalism has drifted to tradition rather than truth in many subjects. Yes, that is what Revelation says. Seems we are nearly there already.
  20. I don't claim to define the limits on this topic, because George has already done so. And I have already supported my argument herein multifold times, with abundant evidence. You're just too self-focused to care to read what has already been written, because you want everyone to focus on you.
  21. Your argument is good, but you did not deal with my arguments. Here they are in summary. The Greek for Apostle means "sent one". If this is what you mean, i agree and you don't have to read further. But if you agree that there was a man "sent" and there was a man with the authority, in the age of grace, to hand another saint over for the destruction of the flesh, you have not made the distinction between them that scripture does. If you say there is no distinction, you have to explain why the eleven came up with their stated qualifications in Acts 1. If you still say that there is no distinction then you have to explain why Paul said (i) there were "signs" of an Apostle, and (ii) why he only mentioned Apostles. If you still disagree, then you must explain why God continuously lays foundations. If you are still not in agreement, you have to explain why the Holy Spirit said "Apostles FIRST". Your denomination founded, or recovered the Apostleship in and around 1863 - certainly not the FIRST in the Assembly. I propose that all you have mentioned fall under the standard meaning of "sent one", not one who occupies the Office of Apostle.
  22. Good summary of the subject, but self contradictory when talking about foundation building. Marilyn answers this by pointing out that individual assemblies are still being founded.
  23. We believe different concerning these issues, but that's ok. God bless!!
  24. I don't think anyone is doing miracles as Jesus said would follow all who believe in Him. I therefore reason that we do not believe in Christs Way as we should, otherwise we would be doing these miracles and greater miracles. The reason we do not believe in Christs Way as we should, is because today we are all currently double minded, serving both God and Mammon. As this double minded status cannot stand; we will then eventually either believe in Christ as we should, and therefore then become true disciples of Christ with following miracles; or we will choose the love for this world that we currently all have, over continuing to believe in Christs Way. This is the Big Split described in the Olivet discourse, where family members will be turning in family members to their deaths.
  25. @PraiseHim1004 FYI.............
  26. Jesus returns at the 7th Vial. PERIOD. There is ONE Pre Trib./Pre 70th Week rapture. No one can be let in once the doors are shut. The Jews and Gentile come unto Christ in the exact same manner. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is all those who come unto Christ after his death and before the 70th week rapture are the Bride of Christ. All the Jews who believed in the Promise and who repent during the 70th week are the Fathers Bride, the Martyrs under the Altar are the Remnant Church as seen more clearly in Rev. 12:17. They ALONE serve on earth with Jesus for his 1000 year reign as per people with Glorious bodies, Rev. 20:4 says just that. The 144,000 represents all the Jews (5 Million) who repent. You still understand the 10 can represent the 2 Billion Church members but can't understand the 144,000 can represent 5 million Jews who repent. Yes..........which proves you DO NOT READ MY POSTS. I always say over and over again that this correlates with the 10 Virgin Brides all being Female Virgins. The 144,000 are Males Virgins because Israel was chosen first, all of their genealogy in the bible basically only names the male fathers. So, likewise, the whole church are NOT Females nor Virgins (a few may be virgins, of course, like Nuns or Eunuch males) just as the 144,000 are NOT Males nor Virgins. It befuddles me how you can grasp one but not the other tbh. So, I just understand Eschatology and Prophesy and how it works, you seemingly only same what you want to see at times. Just like the Male Virgin quote: 1.) How can you not see those your won self? 2.) How can you not see this when I mentioned it 1000 times? We know, you skip or speed read and reply. Else there is no way you could miss this obvious point. Now you have changed again........NO........you have moved to TWO RAPTURES, which confused even me. Geeezeeeeee. Did those "EVENTS" happen when Joel foretold them in Joel chapter 2? This is simple stuff man, as per the TIMING & Time Lines. The Wrath comes with the Trump Asteroid via Trumps 1-4. Seals 1-5 is just Jesus speaking about the coming thug Anti-Christs 42 month reign of terror. Seal #6 is Jesus also foretelling of God coming wrath and like Joel 2:31 he talks about the Sun & Moon going dark et al. THEN................it happens in Trumps 1-4, the Fires EVENTUALLY brings the dimmed by 1/3 Sun and Moon in Trump #4. The Impact of this Asteroid in Trump #2 causes a great earth quake , of course it does via the impact but also it hits just off the California and Mexico border where a lot a fault lines exist. Then we get "The Fallout" that poisons the fresh river waters. Lets look at the Seals vs. the Trumps and Vials, there is really only 7 Divine Judgments, because the Vials are the 3rd Woe which emit from the 7th Trump. God tells you this is my DIVINE JUDGMENT (7 = Divine Completion) and the last 7 Vials finish off my Divine Judgments. The Seals are opening up God's Trumpet Judgments which are in a Scroll Rev. 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. No Angel did anything to bring about ant plague like in Rev. 8 and 9 where the blow the Trumps in each case, or in Rev. 15&16 where they prepare and then pour out the 7 Bowls/Vials. The covering Angel (Beast) merely says come and see, come and see, come and see on each stance where Jesus takes one of the Seals off. The fact that you can not comprehend was a SEALED SCROLL means astonishes me. So, prey tell me why does Jesus uses a Seven Sealed Scroll? In order to let us know that he alone, at the behest of the Father, will bring Divine Judgment on mankind, and that Judgment is contained in this scroll. When one is taken off or loosed can it be read? No, what if 2 are taken off? No not even when 6 seals are taken off/loosed but alas, only when ALL SEVE SEALS are taken off can the Judgments be announced. This isn't even that hard of a riddle, its only difficult because men wrongly passed down bad assumptions that the Scrolls are actionable judgments, they are not. Then we have the 7th Seal over in Rev. 8 and you seem not to get why !! Ands its after Israel are SEALED and PROTECTED in Rev. 7 !! COME AND SEE, SOME AND SEE, COME AND SEE are visions. Jesus tells of the 42 months of Wrath that is soon to come via the Seals being opened. He talks about the Beast in Seals 1-5 and God's wrath in Seal #6. Then Seal #7 brings the DOTL Wrath. Just after the 7th Seal is opened !! See Below. Rev. 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth(Theses prayers are answered with an ASTEROID): and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; Finally in Rev. 16 we see the Vials of God are poured out by angels. So, its illogical that a Scroll of Judgments which can't be read from until all 7 Seales are opened. That doesn't pass the muster test.
  27. By Stefan J. Bos, Chief International Correspondent Worthy News GREENFIELD, USA (Worthy News) – Desperate residents and authorities searched for victims and survivors Wednesday after a deadly tornado devastated the town of Greenfield in the U.S. state of Iowa, killing and injuring numerous people. The exact death toll wasn’t disclosed yet after the deadly twister smashed through Greenfield, turning huge areas into a wasteland of obliterated homes, splintered trees, and crumpled cars. Greenfield, a town of 2,000 about 55 miles (88.5 kilometers) southwest of Des Moines, appeared to have been ripped. The tornado also crumpled massive power-producing wind turbines several miles (kilometers) outside the town, footage seen by Worthy News showed. Greenfield resident Kimberly Ergish and her husband told reporters they dug through the debris field on Wednesday, which used to be their home. They were searching for family photos and other things that could be salvaged, but there “wasn’t much left,” she noticed. POLICE CONCERNED Iowa State Patrol Sergeant Alex Dinkla told reporters that Greenfield had been “struck by a devastating tornado.” He added, “Local, county, and state emergency responders quickly initiated search and rescue operations once the tornado passed through the area.” The U.S. states of Nebraska, Illinois, and Wisconsin were also hit by tornados, heavy rain, and power cuts, officials said. Mary Long rode out the storm inside her Greenfield business, saying: “I could hear this roaring, like the proverbial freight train, and then it was just done.” The latest deadly tornado came just weeks after a person died from injuries in Iowa when a separate storm system hit the Midwest, local media reported. At least four others, including a four-month-old baby, were killed when “dozens of tornadoes” ripped through the central U.S., causing severe damage, authorities said on April 29. The deaths happened in the U.S. state of Oklahoma, where a state of emergency was declared in a dozen counties. The post Several Killed As Deadly Tornado Hits US appeared first on Worthy Christian News. View the full article
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